Foster, Robertson etc
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Just for a little perspective.
Foster coached the Chiefs with the following results.
In the 2004 Super 12 season, 7 wins from 11 games with 274 points for and 251 against. Placed 4th on the table. The Chiefs lost their semifinal 17-32 to the Brumbies, the eventual champions, at Canberra Stadium.
2005, 5 wins and a draw from 11 games with 272 points for and 250 against. Placed 6th.
2006, 7 wins and a draw from 13 games with 325 points for and 298 against. Placed 7th.
2007, 7 wins and a draw from 13 games with 373 points for and 321 against. Placed 7th.
2008, 7 wins from 13 games with 348 points for and 349 against. Placed 7th.
2009, 9 wins from 13 games with 338 points for and 236 against. Placed 2nd. The Chiefs beat the Hurricanes 14-10 in a home semi-final and then lost 17-61 to the Bulls in the final at Loftus Versfeld Stadium, Pretoria.
2010, 4 wins and a draw from 13 games with 340 points for and 418 against. Placed 10th.
2011, 6 wins and a draw from 18 games with 332 points for and 348 against. Placed 5th in the New Zealand conference and 10th overall.Scott Robertson has won the Super rugby title six times and the NPC title three times.
Prediction:
After "intensive review" and "extensive consultation with all stakeholders" they decide to keep Foster. Foster will say all the right things at all the right times to all the right people. Because one thing he is good at, is keeping his job despite absolute mediocrity. -
@antipodean said in Foster:
What the flying fuck is rolling around in Robinson's head? This press conference is entirely unnecessary and should've waited until they got home. Right now a potato would be a more attractive proposition as CEO.
Didn’t see it but sounds like it was straight out of Jacindas handbook. Having a press conference to say there is nothing to say?
Have added a few more of the live updates to my post. A lot being said, but nothing concrete. Probably adding fuel to all the 'inside knowledge' Tweets doing the rounds about Scott Robertson being on standby.
Right on cue:
“We could have handled things differently across the board following the Irish result. We want to be open and transparent, that's why we're here today,” says Robinson, referring to the cancelled press conference after the third test defeat.
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Why make an announcement. Crazy. What a mess
Bring in the Crusaders forward coach, get an improvement. Frustration -
They have 3 options
- fire foster
- confirm foster for RC then another review
- keep foster
I find it hard to get excited about yesterday as I can’t convince myself the corner is turned. More think it’s a false dawn.
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“He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Asked if Foster deserved to stay in charge, Savea’s response: “Like I said, he’s my coach. That’s it.”What are they going to get?
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
“He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Asked if Foster deserved to stay in charge, Savea’s response: “Like I said, he’s my coach. That’s it.”What are they going to get?
"IT" 🤦🤷
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@taniwharugby ask your son bro! that's young'un speak for going hard and getting the W!
I agree with @Billy-Tell this was a hurting team having a big game. A REALLY big game it has to be said, but I totally get they were playing for Fozzie, themselves, and us of course. The risks are too high to think this is the turning of a corner. The comment about no decisions till they are home and around support networks is telling imo.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
“He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Asked if Foster deserved to stay in charge, Savea’s response: “Like I said, he’s my coach. That’s it.”What are they going to get?
Foster's back I think. The sentiment is really strong and complicates any Foster decision by NZR.
“'That's my coach, I back him 100 per cent'.....He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
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@Paekakboyz said in Foster:
@taniwharugby ask your son bro! that's young'un speak for going hard and getting the W!
I agree with @Billy-Tell this was a hurting team having a big game. A REALLY big game it has to be said, but I totally get they were playing for Fozzie, themselves, and us of course. The risks are too high to think this is the turning of a corner. The comment about no decisions till they are home and around support networks is telling imo.
Agree it's way too early to say a corner has been turned or if it is even a start. But if Ardie's comments about Foster are an indicator of team sentiment, any changes around the Head Coach are going to be perilous for NZR to navigate unless Foster himself decides to step down.
It would have been way better if he had gone after the Ireland loss but that ship has now sailed. Bit of a mess.
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@Victor-Meldrew
He backs him 100% and will back whoever they choose in the future 100%.
Perhaps he is just being professional. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
“He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Asked if Foster deserved to stay in charge, Savea’s response: “Like I said, he’s my coach. That’s it.”What are they going to get?
Foster's back I think. The sentiment is really strong and complicates any Foster decision by NZR.
“'That's my coach, I back him 100 per cent'.....He has been under a lot of pressure, and I know Foz (Foster) doesn’t want to make it about himself, but I just want everyone to know that all the players have got his back. He’s a great coach, he’s got great coaches beside him, and we back him 100 percent. I hope everyone that reads this backs us because we are going to get it.”
Ardie is such a nice fella.
I wonder how many of the rest of the squad feel this way ?
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@Paekakboyz yea I assumed that was what he meant, especially if that line was said prior to the match, but after the win, just made less sense.
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@Victor-Meldrew it's hard to tell how much the players will take on themselves about how things have gone. If you have any degree of rapport with your boss/leadership and you aren't performing overly well that can weigh on a person. Let alone in an environment like the ABs where a lot of those players have worked with Foster for many years, and had his support and trust etc.
Not to say I dismiss what the players are saying, or expect them to only praise and support Fozzie. The right way to express concerns is in private - but we (quite rightly) don't see that stuff aired.
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@Victor-Meldrew
He backs him 100% and will back whoever they choose in the future 100%.
Perhaps he is just being professional.Mate. if a senior AB who has captained the team makes a comment like that (which was pretty strong emotionally), then he's either a great actor or a bloody good liar. I don't think he's either.
