Foster, Robertson etc
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@stodders said in Foster must go:
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go:
I looked at the NZR exec again https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/about-nzr/who-we-are/ they have at least two lawyers (and a communication officer who does not proofread) and seem more capable but younger than when I scanned before. The board by contrast and with a couple of exceptions look to me more like CV-padders. I'm guessing the CEO is the central power. And too scared or conservative to drop Foster who won't resign. Feek and Plumtree, if they missed KPI last year are by contrast easier to dislodge.
But i can't believe NZR think Foster can turn this around and based on his press conference today I don't believe he has the guile to persuade them. Notice how he tight-roped between saying Schmidt is helping him but didn't I think call him assistant coach. Internal damage control but external 'I am resilient' speech
His contract must be too hard or expensive to dislodge, which means they wrote a weak contract and are too proud to admit their mistakes (the contract, renewal and Foster's selection). Too late, there is a fire sale on AB aura but no one can be bothered to open the dumpster lid.
Look on the bright side, when Foster's era ends the only way is up. I think it is very magnanimous of the ABs to step aside and let other teams lead the way
Just think how grateful AB supporters will be when success returns. It certainly won't be taken for granted in a hurry!Sounds like it already is! 😉
Stephen Jones waited around in journalism well past his used by date for this moment
😂😂😂
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@Machpants “ It maybe that Foster is rated well by the players, but that doesn't mean he is any good”
This several times over - why is anyone surprised that undroppable players rate the guy who refuses to drop them?
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@Donsteppa of the last 10 tests, we've won 5. Two of those against the USA and Italy. Since the EOYT in 2016 the ABs have nose dived. Foster can bleet all he wants about being the man for the job, resilient and strong but the stats don't lie. The team is trending downwards since 2016, loses to Argentina, Ireland, series loss at home, 66% win ratio and 50% from the last 10. How can his position be justified, hand on his heart? Hell, Mitch had an 80% win ratio and was jettisoned.
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@Machpants taken straight out of the Adern/Trudeau play book.
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@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:
Not sure if true but I’m hearing Tim, booboo and gt12 have been given the nod as the new assistants. Good luck guys.
I can't comment on any possible role, but am expecting a shit ton of team issue apparel.
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@mencey it is about Foster though isnt it? The guy is in his dream job and will not give that up even if he thinks deep down he isnt up to it.
Fozzie is 57 (I was shocked to find out he is only 57 tbh) and it is hard to see him getting another high profile/high paid coaching role after his time with the All Blacks end. He has a career and retirement to think about and I doubt he has plans/or ability to retire just yet.
I thought his press conference was piss weak the way he spoke. saying he he was ian foster " im the all black head coach" the way he paused and stuttered during that introduction showed he didnt really believe in what he was saying
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@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
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@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
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@Dan54 sports journalism, like most journalism i expeft, has been on the decline for many years, most sit on one side of the fence or the other: writing stuff to keep on good side, then the polar opposite, or opinion peice click bait articles.
Very little actual fact based journalism.
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Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
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@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
No real surprise is turned to custard, most on here thought it was the wrong choice, and most fans. So yeah, pile o poo for a while
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Machpants that says pretty much what the stuff Article says, and again breezes past Mcleod, like opposition players through our defence.
I have just been reading a few stuff write ups from this week, they really are not close to being sports journalists are they? We had write ups where Canes was gone, Schmidt was taking over someone spot etc, and funnily enough they were all wrong, I really don't think they are any different to any of us on here, have an idea , put it in writing, only thing is some people seem to think they have inside knowledge. Would love to have some old time journalists that actually toured with the team and built up relationships, so actually knowing what is going on!
@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
Phil Gifford , in the NZ Herald today, has a highly interesting insight into the process around the NZR’s appointment of a new coach after Hansen’s resignation in the 2019 World Cup aftermath.
Apparently, in a break from normal process, the NZR board did not interview the candidates, just a five-person selection panel with only one having rugby coaching experience (Graham Henry).
This amounts to a major failure of governance and tells you why this situation stinks so badly.
That's hardly new news, we all new that anyway, was all pretty open at time, actually it is norm, hardly ever have a panel of coaches appointing coaches an any RU,Henry, Hansen just got interviewed by NZR, noone with coaching experience at all, everyone does same, just another case of click bait journalism. Only difference is many don't even have a panel, just offer the job to someone, Rennie never fronted a panel in Aus, same as Eddie Jones. Warren Gatland actually said he has never applied for a coaching job, Wales etc approached him.
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If results and performances are poor throughout the Rugby Championship, I think Foster will be jetisoned before the EOYT.
Only a matter of time IMHO before Razor gets appointed All Blacks Head Coach now. Okay maybe Dave Rennie might get the job if he gets the Wallabies to the RWC Final.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Foster must go:
@DaGrubster shocked he's only 57? I was shocked the other day when I learned he was once apart of the same super rugby squad as Leon Macdonald
Rangi did start playing NPC when he was 17, so was around a long time as a senior player.
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@Dan54 Well according to Gifford, who is actually a highly experienced journalist and not a paid troll, this is a breach of protocol and suggests something wrong with the governance of the NZR
It is certainly out of keeping with corporate best practice for a multi-million dollar organisation, and in this case New Zealand’s most powerful brand, not to have board oversight of such a key appointment
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@MrDenmore said in Foster must go:
@Dan54 Well according to Gifford, who is actually a highly experienced journalist and not a paid troll, this is a breach of protocol and suggests something wrong with the governance of the NZR
It is certainly out of keeping with corporate best practice for a multi-million dollar organisation, and in this case New Zealand’s most powerful brand, not to have board oversight of such a key appointment
His Canterbury/Crusaders articles in the 90s and 2000s were an absolute embarrassment though.
I like Gifford on the radio though. Him and Simon Barnett were good value when I had a work car that didn’t go past 90fm on the dial.
