All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider
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@Damo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@number9 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Tight 5 are fucked
Yes. Always surprised how much chat there is about other positions. The shit starts there
Need to clear out a few fatties. Starting with Taylor
I mean we dropped ST out of the entire 23 despite being our best tight 5 player? Yeah the tight 5 are stinking up the joint but this 100% comes back to the coaches. We have good enough forwards to lay a platform for the likes of Rieko and Jordan but our players are playing like they have absolutely no idea what the gameplan is, just like the Chiefs used to.
How on earth did ST get dropped. Maybe Coles comes onto the bench but it's for Taylor.
They went for combos. It didn't work.
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor will sort that out.
Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.
It does when they are dropped.
Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I can't ever remember being this disappointed as an AB supporter. 1998?
1999
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@Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Will Jordan only person that can walk off that field holding his head high
Thought BBBR was also leading the way before he had to leave
Yes BBBRs best game
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor would want his own team so quite a cost.
So pay it. It's costs more to keep these clowns on to further tarnish the ABs.
Agree. But this is NZR
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor will sort that out.
Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.
It does when they are dropped.
Just dropping players won't improve the culture - unless you want one of fear which never works.
These players didn't get shit overnight. They can be improved
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Razor will sort that out.
Changing culture doesn't come from the top - it has to come from the players themselves.
Players need support. This team could do with a Crusaders style system in place, that simplifies decision making. Because they can't make good decisions by themselves
ANY system would be an improvement.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.
I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next
Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue
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Lost home series to Ireland - check
What's else could this season hold...
Lose both tests in SA
Lose Bledisloe
Lose to Scotland on EOYT
Lose to Wales on EOYTThat's the trajectory NZ are on right now. There is no fear. Opponents sense blood in the water. They know NZ have the capability of scoring something out of nothing, but so do Fiji!
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@LABCAT said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Two questions:
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why didn't the AB's take the three towards the end? This is test match rugby not super rugby!
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would Aki be AB's 12 now if he had stayed in NZ?
3 not enough but should have gone for scrum or line out
No. Same scenario as Hadley Parkes
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Picked Ireland England SA today. Sadly ⅓ so far.
I'm one from 4, England, SA, Scotland next
Yep, once again, not just the loss. It's the lack of anything coherent as a team that makes it so annoying. You can see we have some stellar individuals (among with some dead weight that needs to be dropped, cane, Taylor, etc) so it's totally a coaching issue
Yes. The leadership group HAS to be questioned now, as does the direction that the team is taking and all including the fisheads given a good clearout.
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@Stag said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Victor-Meldrew Razor would bring a complete overhaul of the team and the culture with him. And make McDonald his assistant.
It's never that simple. And it's plain dumb to impose a culture - almost always ends badly.
