All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
it's smart play to have your cleaners already positioned where the tackle will be made.
easy when our play is so predictable on both sides.
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All Blacks prop Angus Ta’avao has copped a three-week suspension on the back of his red card last weekend.
Not that he would be playing anyway due to concussion.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
it's smart play to have your cleaners already positioned where the tackle will be made.
easy when our play is so predictable on both sides.
We need to station our cleaners 10m behind the advantage line.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
it's smart play to have your cleaners already positioned where the tackle will be made.
easy when our play is so predictable on both sides.
We need to station our cleaners 10m
behindin front of the advantage line.fixed that for ya
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
it's smart play to have your cleaners already positioned where the tackle will be made.
easy when our play is so predictable on both sides.
We need to station our cleaners 10m
behindin front of the advantage line.fixed that for ya
Then they'll be twenty metres in front of the ball carrier!
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Bryn Hall with the analysis here, explaining in depth about how the Ireland blocking game is so good that our contestables are no longer working and we are giving them the ball in a good part of the field (essentially giving them every opportunity for territory):
Starts from about 9:50 on that point but the analysis here is already miles beyond 'The Breakdown'
Interesting comparisons between the styles Cane and paps play.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
All Blacks prop Angus Ta’avao has copped a three-week suspension on the back of his red card last weekend.
Not that he would be playing anyway due to concussion.
WHAT??!!
fucking
LOL
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
All Blacks prop Angus Ta’avao has copped a three-week suspension on the back of his red card last weekend.
Not that he would be playing anyway due to concussion.
WHAT??!!
fucking
LOL
His problem was that he didn’t deliberately head-butt him, then he could have got a week off.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
All Blacks prop Angus Ta’avao has copped a three-week suspension on the back of his red card last weekend.
Not that he would be playing anyway due to concussion.
WHAT??!!
fucking
LOL
it's consistent with other decisionsOK I looked it up. Tom Banks got let off. Who knows now, this is like the old contact with the kicker - France 15 red carded on Beauden Barrett, then let off on review. It's crazy.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Bryn Hall with the analysis here, explaining in depth about how the Ireland blocking game is so good that our contestables are no longer working and we are giving them the ball in a good part of the field (essentially giving them every opportunity for territory):
Starts from about 9:50 on that point but the analysis here is already miles beyond 'The Breakdown'
It's certainly better than the Breakdown but some of their takes on current NZ players are a waste of time as Bryn is a current player and Parsons is on the NZRPA.
No player is ever criticised, player depth is always amazing etc.
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@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@reprobate Irish rugby fans are the nastiest, chippiest bunch of assholes I've met in person. I had a salesman come to my lab at a university in London and have a go at me about NZ rugby and "cheating" etc. Awful people. I cannot bear to lose to them. On the other hand, I desperately want these incompetent idiot coaches gone. Rugby is one of the very few remaining sources of national pride.
Oh the irony in this post. Get that miserable chip off your shoulder and take a step back. Irish fans are among the best in the sport. Respectful of the kicker in every game (unlike you lot), gracious in defeat and also respectable in victory, especially rare ones against the ABs. You coming up with that synopsis from one example of an "irishman" you met says a lot more about you than your so called opinion. What a bitter soul you obviously have!
To be perfectly honest, since I've joined this forum back before the last World Cup it's certainly been an eye opener. I've met plenty of kiwis and found them absolute salt of the earth genuine folk and likened them as a SH version of the Irish people. But this place has shown some of you guys to have the most bigoted outlooks bordering on racism and almost small town American redneck type narrow mindedness that's surprised my view of the people.
But, unlike the dickhead above (Tim), my view of the kiwis will never be skewed by the odd bad egg and they AB team will remain my second favourite team after my home country.
I'm not expecting Ireland to win the series on Saturday, the ABs will bounce back from the last game to take the series, and I will say they will do it convincingly.
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@The-Irishman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Respectful of the kicker in every game
i've always found this one really funny
deathly silence for goal kicks
yell like hooligans for lineout calls and the like.
Seems weird to me
(not least because i attend a lot of basketball and yelling at freethrows is not only condoned, but actively encouraged)
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@The-Irishman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@reprobate Irish rugby fans are the nastiest, chippiest bunch of assholes I've met in person. I had a salesman come to my lab at a university in London and have a go at me about NZ rugby and "cheating" etc. Awful people. I cannot bear to lose to them. On the other hand, I desperately want these incompetent idiot coaches gone. Rugby is one of the very few remaining sources of national pride.
Oh the irony in this post. Get that miserable chip off your shoulder and take a step back. Irish fans are among the best in the sport. Respectful of the kicker in every game (unlike you lot), gracious in defeat and also respectable in victory, especially rare ones against the ABs. You coming up with that synopsis from one example of an "irishman" you met says a lot more about you than your so called opinion. What a bitter soul you obviously have!
To be perfectly honest, since I've joined this forum back before the last World Cup it's certainly been an eye opener. I've met plenty of kiwis and found them absolute salt of the earth genuine folk and likened them as a SH version of the Irish people. But this place has shown some of you guys to have the most bigoted outlooks bordering on racism and almost small town American redneck type narrow mindedness that's surprised my view of the people.
But, unlike the dickhead above (Tim), my view of the kiwis will never be skewed by the odd bad egg and they AB team will remain my second favourite team after my home country.
I'm not expecting Ireland to win the series on Saturday, the ABs will bounce back from the last game to take the series, and I will say they will do it convincingly.
Blimey. Maybe Tim just met some of the bad eggs?
Ive met some colossal dickhead Irish fans. Easily the worst fans I’ve met. I hate your rugby team too.
Both are probably because you beat us.
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@The-Irishman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I'm not expecting Ireland to win the series on Saturday, the ABs will bounce back from the last game to take the series, and I will say they will do it convincingly.
you guys will do it easier than last week, I honestly dont think this team has it in them to turn things around as previous teams responding to a loss.
As for the Irish, well, always remember the first pub I walked into in Dublin, was a bar fight inside 5 mins, glassing...then they sang the National Anthem at closing time, brilliant, summed up the extremes of Irish culture and stereotypes right there!
My cousin is married to an Irish fella, and he is a good fella, but I dont think all Irish are good people cos of him
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A reaction to the suspension
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@The-Irishman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Respectful of the kicker in every game
i've always found this one really funny
deathly silence for goal kicks
yell like hooligans for lineout calls and the like.
Seems weird to me
(not least because i attend a lot of basketball and yelling at freethrows is not only condoned, but actively encouraged)
So respectful in 2013. LOL
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Another example of AB defence being exposed, I believe it was 14 vs 14 at this stage.
Again the front row being targeted.
I watch that and see them isolate Leicester with two players either side so that he can't defend the player behind the line of front runners. That's not good rugby, that's sheparding. Everything wrong with the game on a video highlighting how good they are!
What if LF changed his line slightly and ran right into the screen would that then be obstruction? Clearly very negative play but similar to how the 9 falls over the players at the ruck.
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@The-Irishman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Respectful of the kicker in every game (unlike you lot)
That’s a bit sanctimonious. If that’s what Irish fans want to do, go for your life. But equating noise to disrespect is a bit simplistic. It begs the question why Irish fans make any noise during the other parts of the game. Goal kicking is just as much part of the game as what goes on in general play. So for 6 or 7 minutes a game the Irish fans are respectful and the rest you are not because you are making noise? Tsk tsk