All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Stuff you can blame the coaches for:
- What was with the midfield high kicks? All it did was gift the ball and field position to Ireland. Seemed a complete waste of ball.
If my memory serves me right these were the first few plays of game.
- We kick off, and Ireland do what Ireland do and exit extremely well either via Lowe or Park and get the ball out around half way nearly every time.
- We get the ball, don't really make any ground and BB or AS put in a midfield bomb.
- Ireland defuse the bomb more often than not, regather, play some structure then kick us back into our half or 22.
So in only a few phases Ireland have us under pressure and to be honest this is simple rugby. Play for territory, pressure the opposition on D whilst they try to exit and hope they make mistakes.
If Ireland could finish their attacks they would be a very difficult team to beat.
When was the last time the AB's scored or got on the board first?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Same reason a doctor doesn't rely on gut instinct before he performs an operation. You need to understand the problem first, then get the right guy with the right skills to fix the problem.
Vic you are over thinking it. Time to change the bridge
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
secondly, the red on Gus. That's the worst example of the head contact protocols I've seen. The very definition of unavoidable.
Get outta town! He ran into the ball carrier, actually accelerated towards him and lined him up! The very definition of avoidable!
Stop it Justin
Weak. Are you saying he didn't look at the player, change his angle and accelerate towards him in order to make a hit? If so, your eyesight is probably as good as you think Angus' is.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
My biggest disappointment in this team is their inability to chance their arm when we have ball in hand. How many times have we gone a couple phases and then aimlessly kicked the ball away? It’s almost ingrained into this team atm, there is no innovation at all.
How about instead of running through the motions we actually chance our arm a little and use the talent at our disposal. The reason the likes of Ardie, Reiko, Jordan, Reece etc are in this side is for their ability to cut teams to shreds, yet we hardly ever spin it wide.
What planet are you on? We constantly spin it wide without going forward first. If this talent was so successful at running around the opposition, why wouldn't we do that all the time and rack up 50 points?
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Think Kinsella is right. ABs down to 13 (RC, YC). To avoid teams deliberately taking advantage of uncontested scrums, if you don’t have a viable TH, you have to have a front row (any player will do) and then someone else goes off. Permanently. So you go down to 12 then remain at 13 for the match once YC player comes back. Is all a bit stupid as 15 vs 13 is never a contest
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@Chris-B my bad. I would imagine the CEO and board have this responsibility and that assumably there is a clause in his contract to allow them to do so.
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@Steve said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
The team is in fucking rag order. The culture looks shite too. From all the social media its all basketball jerseys, slang and shite haircuts. They all need a boot up the fucking hole.
Welcome aboard. Some great points.
If that's true and is causing issues, then who is responsible for allowing that culture to take root and how do we fix it?
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@The-Docter depends how tightly his KPIs are tied to winning I guess...
When setting them last year, surely winning a home series v Ireland and retaining Bledisloe would (or should) have been must and non negotiable.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Things have improved though, Patrick Tuipulotu didn’t come on the field with pink hair at least.
Yeah, fuck pink hair. Mascara is OK though - just ask Ma'a
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@Tordah said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Judging by the past two weeks, this upcoming. RWC is going to be fantastic - any Top ten team can beat any other on their day. They just have to solve the accidental head clash issue.
On topic: Ireland deserved winners. Played with the intensity we were used from the ABs in the early 2010s,just lacked AB clinicality
Our only chance of winning the World Cup is the present state of the rules regarding foul play and head clashes.. We need other teams to be a bit over-zealous and get carded - preferably reds. Unfortunately, we're also the team getting carded a lot.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Same reason a doctor doesn't rely on gut instinct before he performs an operation. You need to understand the problem first, then get the right guy with the right skills to fix the problem.
Vic you are over thinking it. Time to change the bridge
Mate, I've been here before.
Let's not replicate the on-field headless chicken act when sorting out the coaching.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Things have improved though, Patrick Tuipulotu didn’t come on the field with pink hair at least.
Yeah, fuck pink hair. Mascara is OK though - just ask Ma'a
Pretty sure he only wore it for one season.
Then he stopped and became our best 12 ever.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Mate, I've been here before.
Let's not replicate the on-field headless chicken act when sorting out the coaching.The team success of the Crusaders appears greater than the some of it parts at times.
The ABs are the opposite. In recent years the team success hasn't equated to the quality of the players.
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@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@KiwiMurph I laughed over that Taylor comment. It’s like the “not far off, just a few tweaks” comments we always hear. They are delusional.
Nah, just need that little improvement for being better at All Blacking, and the wins will come.
Fucking Cheika talk, no plan, no cleverness.
Only individual brilliance is meaning that we sometimes win
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I do find that rule ridiculous, rugby is a contest, and the forward exchange pivotal to it, not to mention the safety aspect, yet they will happily allow a scrum to be underpowered by forcing the team to remove a forward if a prop is binned, rather than let them choose who to remove (ie a wing more than likely)
Is that true? I always thought the team could remove whoever they like?
As the only dedicated players are FR, I find it hard to believe the ref can dictate a forward must go off - they can just say Leicester is a flanker.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@Canes4life Wide pass to a flat standing forward from a ruck that gets picked off straight away - does my head in.
First half was a clear example of this. Rieko made 20 odd metres from a scrum inside ABs 22.
Next phase Aaron Smith biffs it to Brodie who gets picked off and penalised for holding on.
There is no way that should be happening one phase after getting so far over the advantage line.
I was yelling at the TV when that happened
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@Bones I said I thought Peyper said we had to send a loosie off...that said, whenever a card has happened in super its a loosie that goes off (if inrecall the 400 cards from super correctly) so you tell me, are they choosing to under power the forwards?
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@antipodean lol what planet are you on? There were multiple occasions last night where we had the Irish back pedalling after two or three phases and then Beauden or Smith frustratingly put boot to ball.
It’s pretty much the main thing they touched on post match, we just aimlessly gave possession away to the Irish all night, and we paid the price.
It’s the thing I hate most about Beauden’s game. He’s not a great tactical kicker and I feel like kicking the ball away is somewhat ingrained into his game these days.
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@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I don't care how good this Irish side is, we played shit and have been playing shit since 2018-ish. That's not disrespectful to the opposition. No one thinks Foster is a good coach, so why is it disrespectful to say we played like headless chickens?
Prediction: Foster sneaks a win in this series and the Bled then gets bundled out of the RWC in the quarters or semis and retires. And that's being highly optimistic.
But not unrealistic
There is precedent
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@antipodean lol what planet are you on? There were multiple occasions last night where we had the Irish back pedalling after two or three phases and then Beauden or Smith frustratingly put boot to ball.
It’s pretty much the main thing they touched on post match, we just aimlessly gave possession away to the Irish all night, and we paid the price.
I'm firmly grounded on planet earth where getting our backs to use their individual talent to simply score tries isn't a realistic option.
Hang on. Are you Mooar?
