Australia v England - 1st Test
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@Machpants said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@Machpants said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Game started off as a snore-fest and became a classic. Bloody well done Oz. Eddie has some serious thinking to do.
Gonna grab some popcorn and head over to social media to enjoy the reaction.
I really disagree this is a classic.
Well maybe not a classic in the sense of a great game with flowing rugby, But as an enthralling watch, particularly the second half, it was pretty damn good.
Whereas I see this as really poor rugby throughout. Yes there was heart, and if this was outer Mongolia versus Iraq, I think that's a great game. But for two supposed rugby tier 1s? Nope
I agree. As I said I watched it live and maybe it was better on TV, but live it was so poor. Two teams with very dull uninspiring gameplans. Forward hits it up in the 10/12 channel x2, switch direction, forward hits it up in the 10/12 channel then throw it wide with a decoy runner and repeat...constant box kicks and chase... Perhaps it's the rules that need changing. There seemed to be virtually no line breaks, no space and almost resembled a game of league.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@zed said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Not sure what the game looked like on TV, but I watched it live and it was poor. Very one-dimensional from both teams really. Pretty drab and not a good advert for the game. I can't see SA or the ABs being troubled by either of these sides if they carry on playing like this.
I'm not sure what the stats were, but it seemed England had the majority of possession, at least in the first half and should have done better. They have the players, it might be time for a new coach?
Different opponents (and conditions) can result in different game outcomes.
In saying that, the Boks looked pretty dire for large parts of last nights game.
Yup true.
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I got back from the AB test in time to watch the 2nd half live. By the comments here sitting in a car was more fun than watching the 1st half. Both coaches will need to make some changes for test 2, and that might decide the outcome if they pick the right players (or not).
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The Brit/English press gleefully getting the knife in!
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Gah! What a Shiloh Pitt. Well done to Aus for overcoming the injuries and the red card. Showed some real ticker and great accuracy during the ten minute spell that won the game.
Smith will have many better games than that but very few that are worse. Our breakdown work and spoiling fell off dramatically when Curry was subbed. Ludlam carried well but we lost that speed and expertise that a genuine 7 brings. Who’d have thought it? Not Eddie it seems. Centre pairing just not working either, certainly not within Eddie’s new attacking structure. However, I think that this might just be the turning point. So much so I reckon we might just take this series 2-1.
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I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.
We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.
We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.
And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.
So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.
10/10 game. A classic for the ages.
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@barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.
We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.
We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.
And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.
So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.
10/10 game. A classic for the ages.
Hear hear
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@barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.
We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.
We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.
And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.
So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.
10/10 game. A classic for the ages.
Dude chill out i actually yelled out loud and fist pumped when Samu scored. Loved it.
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@barbarian famous victories aren’t famous for no reason 😀
Congrats bro. Enjoy this one after a long drought.
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Great post.
It’s a fucking cliche, but its really true for me -
I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.
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@gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.
I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.Uh ... Thanks?
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@NTA said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
I support two teams, the All Blacks and anyone playing England.
I only saw the second half, but I really enjoyed it.
Btw, they are followed by anyone playing you fluffybunnies, but those fluffybunnies are worse.Uh ... Thanks?
You should see how conflicted us Kiwis used to get when your cricket boys played Pakistan...
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@barbarian said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
I couldn’t give a flying fuck if you all think it was a bad game.
We haven’t beaten the Poms since 2015. More than that, we haven’t gotten close to beating the Pons since 2015.
We lost Quade in the warmup, then lost Banks, AAA and Swain inside the first half.
And we FUCKEN WON. By rolling straight over the top of them.
So it might have been ugly but I’m grinning from ear to ear today, no matter what all of you miserable Kiwi bastards think.
10/10 game. A classic for the ages.
It was a bad game from England, not so sure for Oz. Showed great heart to keep in the game and really roll over the top of England. Second half they were great.
Unbelievably stupid red card though.
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@MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.
They really do have some cracking players.
But god they are awful.
this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.
They really do have some cracking players.
But god they are awful.
this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.
Yep. Good old "Shelf Life" Jones.
Everyone here remembers the RWC2003 semi-final. Nobody thinks about his almost religious determination to ignore or even devolve our scrum.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.
They really do have some cracking players.
But god they are awful.
this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.
Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks, and he's already delivered that so I don't think he has much more to offer England now. Time for him to move to the next team that wants a famous win against us.
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@No-Quarter said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
@MajorRage said in Australia v England - 1st Test:
Eddie has done a cracking job making the team far less than the sum of their parts.
They really do have some cracking players.
But god they are awful.
this is standard Eddie Jones though isn't it? i feel like you hire him for 3 years maximum.
Yep, I'm not sure what more people expect of Eddie? He specialises in one-off victories against the All Blacks
Because it's all about you
In his defence: Jones took a failed RWC2015 Test team and turned them around in pretty short order, which is his specialty. Grand Slam, two other 6N titles, undefeated in a calendar year. RWC final and a few wins on the trot against us as well.
You could easily say he took the massive resources of RFU and just pointed it in the right direction, but that clearly wasn't as easy as first thought because England have underperformed so massively overall when you look at their results. The problem with having a huge resource base is sometimes too many choices. Particularly when some of the talent in your local comp is foreign.
His main issue is stagnation. It happened nearly everywhere he went - and really your head coach should be 3-4 years at most IMHO.
