Hurricanes 2023
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger that calibre of player is hard to get though unless you get a young gun from your region who becomes your starter, like Barrett and Cruden until he left.
At least these young guys have promise. Rather them than a proven dud in JGB.
JGB had some great games esp for Wellington But too many poor or average ones. For example he was great in last yrs NPC v Auckland. But poorish in the final. Morgan replaced JGB but was worse. Both are inconsistent (as Morgan also had some good games before he lost his starting position).
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@Canes4life So Bird is fit to play and available for selection
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life So Bird is fit to play and available for selection
He's too tall for Holland obviously.
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@foobaNZ said in Hurricanes 2023:
Hopefully Sangster is back soon. Him and IWL would be my starting 2. Won't happen though with Blackwell there.
Dislocated thumbs take about 6 weeks. So I don't think we'll see Sangster back until about round 6/7
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
Hopefully, the senior squad has a better game, tonight.
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Tevita Mafileo suspended for 3 weeks
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee has accepted a guilty plea from Tevita Mafileo of
the Hurricanes for contravening Law 9.20: Dangerous play in a ruck or maul, after he was Red
Carded during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Mafileo has been suspended from all forms of the game for 3 weeks up to and including 25
March 2023.
The incident occurred in the 43rd minute of the match between the Rebels and Hurricanes at
AAMI Park in Melbourne on 3 March 2023.
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee of Michael Heron KC (Chair), John Langford and
Stefan Terblanche assessed the case.
In his finding, Foul Play Review Committee Chairman Michael Heron KC ruled the following:
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee upheld the Red Card under Law 9.20."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a
mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to the World Rugby instructions that dictate "any act of foul
play which results in contact with the head and/or the neck shall result in at least a mid-range
sanction". However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's clean judicial
record and pleading guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee
reduced the suspension to 3 weeks."
"Additionally, due to this incident being the Player's first offence, the FPRC have deemed Tevita
Mafileo eligible to apply for World Rugby's Head Contact Process – Coaching Intervention.”
"The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including the 25th March 2023.”And from the article below:
The suspension will see Mafileo miss the next three Hurricanes fixtures, against the Blues, Waratahs and Moana Pasifika.
He will be free to return for the round six clash against the Force in Palmerston North on April 2. -
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
Tevita Mafileo suspended for 3 weeks
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee has accepted a guilty plea from Tevita Mafileo of
the Hurricanes for contravening Law 9.20: Dangerous play in a ruck or maul, after he was Red
Carded during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Mafileo has been suspended from all forms of the game for 3 weeks up to and including 25
March 2023.
The incident occurred in the 43rd minute of the match between the Rebels and Hurricanes at
AAMI Park in Melbourne on 3 March 2023.
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee of Michael Heron KC (Chair), John Langford and
Stefan Terblanche assessed the case.
In his finding, Foul Play Review Committee Chairman Michael Heron KC ruled the following:
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee upheld the Red Card under Law 9.20."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a
mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to the World Rugby instructions that dictate "any act of foul
play which results in contact with the head and/or the neck shall result in at least a mid-range
sanction". However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's clean judicial
record and pleading guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee
reduced the suspension to 3 weeks."
"Additionally, due to this incident being the Player's first offence, the FPRC have deemed Tevita
Mafileo eligible to apply for World Rugby's Head Contact Process – Coaching Intervention.”
"The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including the 25th March 2023.”And from the article below:
The suspension will see Mafileo miss the next three Hurricanes fixtures, against the Blues, Waratahs and Moana Pasifika.
He will be free to return for the round six clash against the Force in Palmerston North on April 2.Can’t really argue with that.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
Tevita Mafileo suspended for 3 weeks
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee has accepted a guilty plea from Tevita Mafileo of
the Hurricanes for contravening Law 9.20: Dangerous play in a ruck or maul, after he was Red
Carded during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Mafileo has been suspended from all forms of the game for 3 weeks up to and including 25
March 2023.
The incident occurred in the 43rd minute of the match between the Rebels and Hurricanes at
AAMI Park in Melbourne on 3 March 2023.
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee of Michael Heron KC (Chair), John Langford and
Stefan Terblanche assessed the case.
In his finding, Foul Play Review Committee Chairman Michael Heron KC ruled the following:
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee upheld the Red Card under Law 9.20."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a
mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to the World Rugby instructions that dictate "any act of foul
play which results in contact with the head and/or the neck shall result in at least a mid-range
sanction". However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's clean judicial
record and pleading guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee
reduced the suspension to 3 weeks."
"Additionally, due to this incident being the Player's first offence, the FPRC have deemed Tevita
Mafileo eligible to apply for World Rugby's Head Contact Process – Coaching Intervention.”
"The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including the 25th March 2023.”And from the article below:
The suspension will see Mafileo miss the next three Hurricanes fixtures, against the Blues, Waratahs and Moana Pasifika.
He will be free to return for the round six clash against the Force in Palmerston North on April 2.Can’t really argue with that.
Hopefully P RS is fit and ready to play. Otherwise we are into our reserves. Unless Tosi can play LH.
Hopefully we keep Ardie (surprised this hasn't been decided yet as well)
edit who would be our backup LH. (Could Sheck play LH)
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
Tevita Mafileo suspended for 3 weeks
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee has accepted a guilty plea from Tevita Mafileo of
the Hurricanes for contravening Law 9.20: Dangerous play in a ruck or maul, after he was Red
Carded during a Super Rugby Pacific Match at the Weekend.
Mafileo has been suspended from all forms of the game for 3 weeks up to and including 25
March 2023.
The incident occurred in the 43rd minute of the match between the Rebels and Hurricanes at
AAMI Park in Melbourne on 3 March 2023.
The SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee of Michael Heron KC (Chair), John Langford and
Stefan Terblanche assessed the case.
In his finding, Foul Play Review Committee Chairman Michael Heron KC ruled the following:
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee upheld the Red Card under Law 9.20."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a
mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to the World Rugby instructions that dictate "any act of foul
play which results in contact with the head and/or the neck shall result in at least a mid-range
sanction". However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's clean judicial
record and pleading guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee
reduced the suspension to 3 weeks."
"Additionally, due to this incident being the Player's first offence, the FPRC have deemed Tevita
Mafileo eligible to apply for World Rugby's Head Contact Process – Coaching Intervention.”
"The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including the 25th March 2023.”And from the article below:
The suspension will see Mafileo miss the next three Hurricanes fixtures, against the Blues, Waratahs and Moana Pasifika.
He will be free to return for the round six clash against the Force in Palmerston North on April 2.Can’t really argue with that.
Hopefully P RS is fit and ready to play. Otherwise we are into our reserves. Unless Tosi can play LH.
Hopefully we keep Ardie (surprised this hasn't been decided yet as well)
edit who would be our backup LH. (Could Sheck play LH)
Sheck can, but I think he may be injured aswell.
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If he apologized afterwards (as Savea did) I hope most would accept this and move on
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@Winger depends if he made the gesture and then took out someones knee...
But in reality, I see little dfference in what Ardie did vs when you see a couple of players square up, one goes to throw a punch, but either decides not to or a team mate pulls him back before he does, nothing is made of this, usually just a penalty against someone, end of story.
I think why this is being made a big deal, is people see the gesture as a threat to kill, which we know it wasnt, surely Ardie's exemplary record of never killing anyone should be taken into account?
I expect he will be given a week off though.
I imagine if Carlos' single finger salute to the rabid cantabs or Andrew Merhtens double finger salute to the rabid Loftus crowd happened today, both would be cited too....
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
If he apologized afterwards (as Savea did) I hope most would accept this and move on
What a dumb article. I haven't heard anyone condoning what Ardie did.
What I have heard is people complaining that the Stan presenter went on and on and on and on....
And I have heard that although what he did was stupid and a lack of control, there was no harm done to anyone else and that a sentence similar to actual physical harm seems over the top.
If they do continue down the path of punishment I hope the Canes lawyers get to state the case that the little shit he pulled out and supposedly 'escalated' things by doing so had run in 20 metres and pushed his way through the squabble to be standing over players on the ground. Escalation? -
‘Did not breach the red card threshold’
Following the match, Savea was cited under Law 9.27, which states, ‘A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.’
While the citing commissioner ruled that Savea’s actions met the red card threshold, the SANZAAR Judicial Committee did not agree.
In a statement released by the organising body of Super Rugby Pacific, Judicial Committee Chairman Nigel Hampton KC ruled the following: “Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Aaron Lloyd, the Judicial Committee found the foul play did not breach the red card threshold.”
“With respect to sanction, the Judicial Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a warning as it was close to, but did not breach, the red card threshold.
The second hearing
However, the Judicial Committee did issue Savea with a warning. Because Savea had been yellow-carded in the same match, his warning essentially upgraded his yellow card to a red card.
SANZAAR Disciplinary Rule 6.1 states: ‘If a Player has received two Warnings or a combination of a Warning and a yellow card during a Match, he shall be treated for disciplinary purposes as if he had been sent off.’
This meant that the player had to reappear before the Committee members.
Nigel Hampton KC’s findings of the second hearing are as follows: “The Foul Play Review Committee conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, and oral submissions from his legal representative, Mr Aaron Lloyd.
“With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee ruled, after considering a number of factors, including the guidance of World Rugby Regulation 17 Appendix 4, and due to the nature of the player’s persistent offending, with both the yellow card and the warning being issued for unsportsmanlike play, that an appropriate sanction for the player would be a suspension of one week.”
Savea will now miss the Hurricanes’ clash against the Blues but will be available for the following weekend’s game against the Waratahs.