Rugby Championship 2022
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@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@mariner4life and that would be the great thing if a domestic comp was a bigger focus...these 3am games would be the icing on the top...and event....rather than being told this is the most important thing
our entire structure is archaic and fucked.
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@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
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@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
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@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
Fantastic jumping to conclusions.
IIRC the survey also asked how often you attended live games, what levels you watched, how often you watched etc etc
I have no idea how they analysed the results but it was far from simply 'what time do you want games to start' -
@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.
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@Stargazer said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.
Yeah it didn't get marketed out to casuals, it was pretty much a survey of those engaged with the sport at some level.
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@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:
Tables pretty interesting at the moment, who would've picked this!
It's far more interesting upside down
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@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:
Good old rugbypass.
Fucking winning the internet right there
Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!
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@nostrildamus said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:
Good old rugbypass.
Fucking winning the internet right there
Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!
Bigot.
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@nostrildamus said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bones said in Rugby Championship 2022:
Good old rugbypass.
Fucking winning the internet right there
Fourth place-getter gets to pash Faf de Klerk? Hardly an incentive!
All they deserve in fourth
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@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?
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@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?
So far
Pumas
Tries - 9
Conversions - 7
Penalties - 5
Drop goals - 0
Points - 74Wallabies
Tries - 7
Conversions - 6
Penalties - 3
Drop goals - 0
Points - 58Springboks
Tries - 4
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 6
Drop goals - 1
Points - 49All Blacks
Tries - 5
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 4
Drop goals - 0
Points - 45 -
@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@ACT-Crusader would it read the same if it was done on tries differential? Wonder who has been the best defensive unit, letting in the least tries?
So far
Pumas
Tries - 9
Conversions - 7
Penalties - 5
Drop goals - 0
Points - 74Wallabies
Tries - 7
Conversions - 6
Penalties - 3
Drop goals - 0
Points - 58Springboks
Tries - 4
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 6
Drop goals - 1
Points - 49All Blacks
Tries - 5
Conversions - 4
Penalties - 4
Drop goals - 0
Points - 45Is that attacking or defending stats?
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@Mackerzzzz That will be attacking stats. What interests me is how good our defence has stacked up comparatively - after the attacking onslaught from Ireland that allegedly had our defence highly criticised.
Have we contained South Africa as well as the other Championship teams have contained their opponents? I remember an emphatic tackle by a corner-flagging Cane as an example that stood out.
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@ARHS said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Mackerzzzz That will be attacking stats. What interests me is how good our defence has stacked up comparatively - after the attacking onslaught from Ireland that allegedly had our defence highly criticised.
Have we contained South Africa as well as the other Championship teams have contained their opponents? I remember an emphatic tackle by a corner-flagging Cane as an example that stood out.
Our defensive structure has been criticized, the individual work and heart by many of our players has not. The structure is leaky as meaning these gut busting efforts to defend the line are far too common
