Rugby Championship 2022
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It would be interesting to see when reds were awarded in full red card games. Because, according to the NH twenty minutes is not enough deterrent. So you'd expect the major of reds too be in the last half an hour or so. Or maybe they're just talking shit
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I wonder sometimes what it would be like if instead of the plethora of cards we penalise teams points wise. For example, instead of a 15 minute yellow card we have a 15 minute period where each score by the non offending team is worth more. That way we keep 15 on 15 and the infringing team is punished.
Maybe something similar for red card scenarios, I don't know.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Rugby Championship 2022:
I wonder sometimes what it would be like if instead of the plethora of cards we penalise teams points wise. For example, instead of a 15 minute yellow card we have a 15 minute period where each score by the non offending team is worth more. That way we keep 15 on 15 and the infringing team is punished.
Maybe something similar for red card scenarios, I don't know.
It's already difficult enough
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@Crazy-Horse said in Rugby Championship 2022:
I wonder sometimes what it would be like if instead of the plethora of cards we penalise teams points wise. For example, instead of a 15 minute yellow card we have a 15 minute period where each score by the non offending team is worth more. That way we keep 15 on 15 and the infringing team is punished.
Maybe something similar for red card scenarios, I don't know.
Given that we already have teams scrumming for penalties, I think the reverse incentive here might see teams playing for high shots.
We’d definitely have players even more all over the ref for anything slightly high / making head contact.
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@gt12 said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in Rugby Championship 2022:
I wonder sometimes what it would be like if instead of the plethora of cards we penalise teams points wise. For example, instead of a 15 minute yellow card we have a 15 minute period where each score by the non offending team is worth more. That way we keep 15 on 15 and the infringing team is punished.
Maybe something similar for red card scenarios, I don't know.
Given that we already have teams scrumming for penalties, I think the reverse incentive here might see teams playing for high shots.
We’d definitely have players even more all over the ref for anything slightly high / making head contact.
Yep. Of course this will happen. In a game where the difference between winning and losing is paper thin, any advantage will be sought (sadly). Professionalism drives out a lot of the values that were valued under amateurism. Winning is what counts. By any means necessary.
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you know why rugby fucking sucks down here compared to that tiny little corner pocket of Europe?
For the first two weeks of this supposedly prime competition, the games are 1am and 5am Aus time. Number of casuals that will watch either? 0.
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@mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:
you know why rugby fucking sucks down here compared to that tiny little corner pocket of Europe?
For the first two weeks of this supposedly prime competition, the games are 1am and 5am Aus time. Number of casuals that will watch either? 0.
It's better than the Wallabies playing the ABs first up and getting pumped - simultaneously losing any chance at the Bledisloe and The Rugby Championship in the space of 2 games - which has been the case for the last decade.
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@mariner4life and that would be the great thing if a domestic comp was a bigger focus...these 3am games would be the icing on the top...and event....rather than being told this is the most important thing
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@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@mariner4life and that would be the great thing if a domestic comp was a bigger focus...these 3am games would be the icing on the top...and event....rather than being told this is the most important thing
our entire structure is archaic and fucked.
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@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
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@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
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@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
Fantastic jumping to conclusions.
IIRC the survey also asked how often you attended live games, what levels you watched, how often you watched etc etc
I have no idea how they analysed the results but it was far from simply 'what time do you want games to start' -
@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.
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@Stargazer said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Frye said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:
@Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:
SA is quite happy to have afternoon tests, even if that time is the worst for NZ/Aust viewers. But down this part of the world our broadcasters still want evening tests to maximise revenue.
NZR did run a big survey which many of us responded to and outcome was that the majority here want to watch in he evening. The deeper rugby fans like afternoons and that's why NPC is mainly a daytime thing now. They did also pull kick offs forward by half an hour on that feedback
Problem with this line of thinking is that you end up catering for those who are marginal/casual fans and haven't made any investment in the game; but you think they might throw a couple dollars in the pool so you invest in them at the expense of the core fan who has propped up the game in the past and present but possibly not the future because you continue to alienate them!
Genius honestly and reason #467 to rocket marketing people into the sun.
I doubt marginal/casual fans would be interested enough to complete that survey.
Yeah it didn't get marketed out to casuals, it was pretty much a survey of those engaged with the sport at some level.
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@Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:
Tables pretty interesting at the moment, who would've picked this!
It's far more interesting upside down
