All Blacks 2022
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueThat's quite a change from your usual Cantablacks, you must have misplaced your eye patch.
Agree though, the only other backline I'd accept is Goodhue at 12 with Reece on the bench and Jordie/Jordan at 15/14.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or Goodhuepfft
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
😎
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 wouldn't imagine rts would get a hit out for the Maori as he's Samoan
Yep, well have never seen him or anything, so didn't know his genealogy, as I don't watch league so didn't even know who he was until he came to rugby.
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 I think they are too risk adverse to start TVS. They will probably go with those who have started before including Tupea and Goodhue.
With TVS he was knock out of the game against the chiefs because PGS was running down his throat. Still not convince with his size at second five although most of choices are shaded by Nonu or SBW size.
I actually think Irish tests are when the odd risk will be taken, before RC?
I can't see JB at 12, surely be toss up between QT and RTS?
That comes with a caveat, that I know no more than anyone else on here so I could be miles off. But listening to those that are a lot closer to things than me, that seems to be suggestions. -
Antway off top off head, and could well be miles of here is 23 for first test?
Ethan de Groot
Codie Taylor
Nepo Laulala
Sam Whitelock
Brodie Reattlick
Akira Ioane
Sam Cane
Ardie SaveaAaron Smith
Beaden Barrett
Sevu Reece
Quinn Tupaea
Reiko Ioane
Will Jordan
Jordie BarrettSamisoni Taukei'aho
George Bower
Ofa Tuunafasi
Scott Barrett
Luke Jacobson
Brad Weber
Richie Mounga
Jack GoodhueI say that with no confidence, and can see Papal'i on bench if he fit, maybe swap 2 and 16 and could have RTS on bench, QT covers 13 and Reiko wing?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
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Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things 😀
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then I’d have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. That’s even with a fit Papali’i and Blackadder.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
logic in having DH in the 23 for the 1st Test as a safe option
logic? how? i don't get this. how is a player proven to be not to standard considered a safe choice just because he has pulled on a jersey before?
I'm just pointing out that, for the coaches, there is see some logic in having a utility who can cover much of the backline and is familiar with the environment for a key 1st Test.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
😎
Really? Franks over Bower?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things 😀
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then I’d have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. That’s even with a fit Papali’i and Blackadder.
I will almost bet my balls he is, every rugby pundit etc I have heard etc have him in the squad, whether he gets on field against Irish is another story, but he will be in squad I really stronly suspect.
I will also be very surprised if the 3 loosies you name aren't in starting line up for first test, and have actually in my team that I was silly enough to put in here. -
I agree Frizell will be there. He wouldn't be in my squad but they'll pick him.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things 😀
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then I’d have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. That’s even with a fit Papali’i and Blackadder.
There needs to be some fun given Bridge isn’t likely to be picked
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.
Dunno. but a whole lot more than Jordie, RTS or the still-green QT.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
😎
Really? Franks over Bower?
Franks will score a try if selected. Bower on the bench
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think they’ll pick?
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think they’ll pick?
Agree.
With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papali’i very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.
Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.
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Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.
With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?
Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Mo’unga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
😎
Never gets old ...
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Given injury who misses out to Frizell?
Don't have a problem with his selection if there's a couple out and he's the best of the rest.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think they’ll pick?
Agree.
With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papali’i very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.
Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.
That bait's a bit off.
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@Tim and of those 3, Frizell is probably the least versatile, Jacobson the most versatile...so I think he's the other loosie.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.
With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?
Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?
I think with all the loosies pretty much established (comparatively) then it'd be a good idea to plump for MMT or Sowakula, I think Robinson will just be unlucky, especially with Vaai showing similar abilities.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.
With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?
Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?
I think with all the loosies pretty much established (comparatively) then it'd be a good idea to plump for MMT or Sowakula, I think Robinson will just be unlucky, especially with Vaai showing similar abilities.
I like the idea of having like for like replacements, so injuries don’t alter the pattern
Cane & Papali’i play a similar role
Savea & Sotutu play a similar role
Akira & ?Ball in hand Mikaele-Tu’u is the most similar to Akira. Get him in, do some coaching, and improve the rest of his game
There’s still plenty of versatility with those guys too. For instance I expect Papali’i to start a test or two at 6 etc etc
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Fucking Finau
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
Que?
Maybe it's a statement, mariner has pulled?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.
I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.
I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.
Boooo
Boring
And frizell is shit
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.
I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.
Boooo
Boring
And frizell is shit
I dunno why, but they love having a few women beaters in the All Blacks.
MMT would be a selection I would be behind. That wont happen either though, I bet.
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MMT plays like a fitter Sione Lauaki. I’d get him in there this year.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
MMT would be a selection I would be behind. That wont happen either though, I bet.
Though we've got a good 6/7/8 pool, there's a good chance he'll be in the squad, I reckon. Gives him a taste and lets the coaches have a closer look and might make a bench slot for later Tests. Think he'll be on the EOYT as well. Hope so.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
In a few years time, when we are talking about Rieko as one of our best 13s, I’m planning on re-visiting this conversation.
I can understand the misgivings until this last year, when he has been the best 13 in NZ by a fucking mile.
That’s roughly 1.6 km for those who prefer their distances in metric.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim and of those 3, Frizell is probably the least versatile, Jacobson the most versatile...so I think he's the other loosie.
I would think Jacobson is close to a certainty, I also believe that 7 loosies will get picked.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
In a few years time, when we are talking about Rieko as one of our best 13s, I’m planning on re-visiting this conversation.
I can understand the misgivings until this last year, when he has been the best 13 in NZ by a fucking mile.
That’s roughly 1.6 km for those who prefer their distances in metric.
Yep but I not sure how to convert a country mile, and I think Reiko is best be a country mile!!
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim and of those 3, Frizell is probably the least versatile, Jacobson the most versatile...so I think he's the other loosie.
I would think Jacobson is close to a certainty, I also believe that 7 loosies will get picked.
Could even be 8 if they want to bring another option into the fold. More likely 7 with someone like Finau or MMT training with the squad (assuming neither eligible for NZM)
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