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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

    We have loads of talent and some of the worlds best sprinkled through the team, we just need a gameplan that actually plays to our strengths and we'll be extremely difficult to beat.

    Figure out the right 6,
    don't play Jordie and George on the wings,

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

    there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

    He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

    Agreed - every other team in the world would look at his obvious qualities as being an improvement to their team, rather than looking at his weaknesses (which can be improved simply with more game time) and saying he's not fit to play in the midfield (which sadly is a typical AB supporter's view of not just Rieko but almost everyone in black)

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I can't believe they didn't include Hosea Gear flattening Keith Earls in that compilation

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    replied to junior on last edited by
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    @junior They couldn't include them all. Obviously, they saved the best for last, but I also liked Canes and SBW's tries in Hamilton in 2012 in a 60-0 route.

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    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.

    If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.

    At test level he'll need a decent 12 next to him - solid playmaking and kicking with the ability to bend the line and give Ioane some space to use his pace to try and get outside of his defender. A blend of Havili/Tupaea.

    An example of why us old buggers from different eras of play really have no idea.
    These days players align everywhere and anywhere. RI appears on the wing as much as centre and the 12 is often the 13 with fullback or wing between them and the 10.
    We need to stop picturing players in traditional first phase spots.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.

    If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.

    At test level he'll need a decent 12 next to him - solid playmaking and kicking with the ability to bend the line and give Ioane some space to use his pace to try and get outside of his defender. A blend of Havili/Tupaea.

    An example of why us old buggers from different eras of play really have no idea.
    These days players align everywhere and anywhere. RI appears on the wing as much as centre and the 12 is often the 13 with fullback or wing between them and the 10.
    We need to stop picturing players in traditional first phase spots.

    So true - rugby is now, and has been for some time, much more "zonal" (for lack of a better term). Players play in their best position on the field, hence why you have Akira and Coles out on the flanks where their running ability can be exploited while also ensuring ball winners (i.e. ruck work) in the wider channels.

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    World cup lineup:

    I know it's a while out, but I like doing pointless squads...

    1. Moody?,Hogman?, Norris?

    2. S Taukei'aho

    3. O Tu'ungafasi

    4. B Retallick

    5. S Whitelock

    6. T Vaii (personally think he is the future at six)

    7. S Cane (c)

    8. A Savea

    9. A Smith

    10. B Barrett

    11. C Clarke

    12. J Barrett

    13. R Ioane

    14. S Reece

    15. W Jordan

    16. C Taylor

    17. No idea. Can we steal Antonio from the French? He is Kiwi so...

    18. Is it to soon for the mighty Williams?

    19. S Barrett

    20. D Papalii

    21. F Fakatava

    22. R Mo'unga

    23. L Fainga'anuku or RTS

    Biggest weaknesses are props, and possibly second five.

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    I’ve got a feeling old mate Foster is gearing up for a J Barrett / R Ioane midfield combo this year. Whether that happens straight away remains to be seen but I do think we will see it at some point.

    It also allows Jordan to make the fullback jersey his own.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    I’ve got a feeling old mate Foster is gearing up for a J Barrett / R Ioane midfield combo this year. Whether that happens straight away remains to be seen but I do think we will see it at some point.

    It also allows Jordan to make the fullback jersey his own.

    He commented a few weeks back that he sees Jordie as a fullback didn't he?

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    Will Weber be able to show form coming back from injury or do they go with Perenara?

    I think we need to look to the future and use the 3rd slot to grow the cattle rather than stick with TJP, particularly as Christie is a more than capable AS understudy.. Roigard and/or Ratima?

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    @Victor-Meldrew it will be a day of elation when Folau Fakatava is eligible to play for the All Blacks, hopefully that day comes sooner rather than later🙂

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    Will Weber be able to show form coming back from injury or do they go with Perenara?

    I think we need to look to the future and use the 3rd slot to grow the cattle rather than stick with TJP, particularly as Christie is a more than capable AS understudy.. Roigard and/or Ratima?

    Ratima is having a cracking debut season. Has shoved Roe out of the way at the Chiefs and has Weber in his sights.
    Reminds me a bit of TKB in his prime.

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    Biggest weaknesses are props, and possibly second five.

    Only if you ignore the form of our locks at international level. I'd love to be wrong, but they are shadows of their former world class selves

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    @junior said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I can't believe they didn't include Hosea Gear flattening Keith Earls in that compilation

    Here it is. You’re welcome

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    replied to Mackerzzzz on last edited by number9
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    @Mackerzzzz biggest weakness is the Coaching Staff. No one knows what the hell they are doing.

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    @Frank did he? I just find it strange that the Canes are all of a sudden giving Jordie big minutes at 12 when he’s rock solid at 15. Surely that’s messaging from the AB coaches.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frank did he? I just find it strange that the Canes are all of a sudden giving Jordie big minutes at 12 when he’s rock solid at 15. Surely that’s messaging from the AB coaches.

    He’s not getting big minutes at the Canes still is he? They tried a few things and will probably still move the cattle around.
    Foster was specifically asked about Jordie at twelve and he answer was that he was one of the ABs best last year playing at fullback so he’s not sure why he would go looking to move him.

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    wrote on last edited by
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    Yeah given Fozzie's very lukewarm comments towards Jordie at 12 I don't think the AB coaches were behind the shift. Canes have been shifting their midfield around all season haven't they trying to find a spark? Almost a different combination every game?

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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I can't believe they didn't include Hosea Gear flattening Keith Earls in that compilation

    Here it is. You’re welcome

    how good was that, just seeing them get on the outside of their man, fight for space to run support and actual free the wing

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