All Blacks 2022
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.
If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.
At test level he'll need a decent 12 next to him - solid playmaking and kicking with the ability to bend the line and give Ioane some space to use his pace to try and get outside of his defender. A blend of Havili/Tupaea.
An example of why us old buggers from different eras of play really have no idea.
These days players align everywhere and anywhere. RI appears on the wing as much as centre and the 12 is often the 13 with fullback or wing between them and the 10.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
Ioane is now one of the top players in two positions at Test level, delivered - objectively - on the field.
If he has a top season at test level at centre this year then yeah, top player in two positions. Last year he was very good, but still looked like a winger doing a good job at centre. This year to me, at Super level, he is looking more and more like a centre. Hoping he can show it at Test level too.
At test level he'll need a decent 12 next to him - solid playmaking and kicking with the ability to bend the line and give Ioane some space to use his pace to try and get outside of his defender. A blend of Havili/Tupaea.
An example of why us old buggers from different eras of play really have no idea.
These days players align everywhere and anywhere. RI appears on the wing as much as centre and the 12 is often the 13 with fullback or wing between them and the 10.
We need to stop picturing players in traditional first phase spots.So true - rugby is now, and has been for some time, much more "zonal" (for lack of a better term). Players play in their best position on the field, hence why you have Akira and Coles out on the flanks where their running ability can be exploited while also ensuring ball winners (i.e. ruck work) in the wider channels.
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World cup lineup:
I know it's a while out, but I like doing pointless squads...
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Moody?,Hogman?, Norris?
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S Taukei'aho
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O Tu'ungafasi
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B Retallick
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S Whitelock
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T Vaii (personally think he is the future at six)
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S Cane (c)
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A Savea
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A Smith
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B Barrett
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C Clarke
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J Barrett
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R Ioane
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S Reece
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W Jordan
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C Taylor
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No idea. Can we steal Antonio from the French? He is Kiwi so...
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Is it to soon for the mighty Williams?
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S Barrett
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D Papalii
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F Fakatava
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R Mo'unga
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L Fainga'anuku or RTS
Biggest weaknesses are props, and possibly second five.
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I’ve got a feeling old mate Foster is gearing up for a J Barrett / R Ioane midfield combo this year. Whether that happens straight away remains to be seen but I do think we will see it at some point.
It also allows Jordan to make the fullback jersey his own.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I’ve got a feeling old mate Foster is gearing up for a J Barrett / R Ioane midfield combo this year. Whether that happens straight away remains to be seen but I do think we will see it at some point.
It also allows Jordan to make the fullback jersey his own.
He commented a few weeks back that he sees Jordie as a fullback didn't he?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Will Weber be able to show form coming back from injury or do they go with Perenara?
I think we need to look to the future and use the 3rd slot to grow the cattle rather than stick with TJP, particularly as Christie is a more than capable AS understudy.. Roigard and/or Ratima?
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@Victor-Meldrew it will be a day of elation when Folau Fakatava is eligible to play for the All Blacks, hopefully that day comes sooner rather than later🙂
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Will Weber be able to show form coming back from injury or do they go with Perenara?
I think we need to look to the future and use the 3rd slot to grow the cattle rather than stick with TJP, particularly as Christie is a more than capable AS understudy.. Roigard and/or Ratima?
Ratima is having a cracking debut season. Has shoved Roe out of the way at the Chiefs and has Weber in his sights.
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Biggest weaknesses are props, and possibly second five.
Only if you ignore the form of our locks at international level. I'd love to be wrong, but they are shadows of their former world class selves
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@junior said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I can't believe they didn't include Hosea Gear flattening Keith Earls in that compilation
Here it is. You’re welcome
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@Mackerzzzz biggest weakness is the Coaching Staff. No one knows what the hell they are doing.
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@Frank did he? I just find it strange that the Canes are all of a sudden giving Jordie big minutes at 12 when he’s rock solid at 15. Surely that’s messaging from the AB coaches.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank did he? I just find it strange that the Canes are all of a sudden giving Jordie big minutes at 12 when he’s rock solid at 15. Surely that’s messaging from the AB coaches.
He’s not getting big minutes at the Canes still is he? They tried a few things and will probably still move the cattle around.
Foster was specifically asked about Jordie at twelve and he answer was that he was one of the ABs best last year playing at fullback so he’s not sure why he would go looking to move him. -
Yeah given Fozzie's very lukewarm comments towards Jordie at 12 I don't think the AB coaches were behind the shift. Canes have been shifting their midfield around all season haven't they trying to find a spark? Almost a different combination every game?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@junior said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
I can't believe they didn't include Hosea Gear flattening Keith Earls in that compilation
Here it is. You’re welcome
how good was that, just seeing them get on the outside of their man, fight for space to run support and actual free the wing
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