All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
Could a good coach improve that?
apparently he had a very good coach early in the year. Why didn't he sort it?
Coaching at AB level shouldn't be about teaching guys this level of detail.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nzzp nope. He is a very good player in the wrong position.
I wonder if he will get the chance to revert to fullback and stake a claim there? With DMac going to Japan there could be a gap in the squad for him to be a fullback/12 reserve.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
Could a good coach improve that?
apparently he had a very good coach early in the year. Why didn't he sort it?
Coaching at AB level shouldn't be about teaching guys this level of detail.
Agree on both points.
Many of the problems with individuals are from players under Razor which raises questions on whether he really is equipped to improve players at an AB level.
He's a very good person manager and knows how to get a tea functioning well at Super level but when so called star players like Mounga seemingly have no clue what to do when faced with what teams like Ireland will bring it kind of points to him not being the saviour of NZ rugby.
Another Deans when what we need is another Wayne Smith.I would be looking at Joseph and Brown to take the reins to be honest. Joseph's speciality is hard nosed forward packs and Brown is the creative thinker that our backs need.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
Could a good coach improve that?
apparently he had a very good coach early in the year. Why didn't he sort it?
Coaching at AB level shouldn't be about teaching guys this level of detail.
that depends on the role he's playing, i didn't watch enough of the crusaders, was he doing things different or he was doing pretty much the same and it was just working at the lower level?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
I said during the match thread that he is not decisive. Whether he is going to pass, hit it up, kick, whatever, he needs to make the decision immediately and stick to it.
He has a horrible habit of having a little nibble himself before shovelling it to the next guy.
I think the worst thing that happened to him was scoring a soft side stepping try against Fiji. That moment came too easy and he keeps looking for it when he'd be better off committing to a straight hard run.
When you put that outside the 'world class touch player' the backline doesn't function.
There's no way he should start this weekend. I wouldn't write him off as a 12 though. However he needs to make fundamental adjustments during SR
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@duluth said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
However he needs to make fundamental adjustments during SR
he's not alone
but he won't
because he doesn't need to
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Not giving up on DH, just think it's time to give QT a start. There's a chance he might provide a solution.
Yep. ALB's injury has expose the bareness of the cupboard. We didn't have a settled 12/13 in 2019, but it did have some experience.
Dave looks to have run out of gas.
At the end of Super rugby, he was he clear pick to play 12 - but, he's spent the year re-learning the position to play in two different teams, when he was probably expecting/hoping to play fullback for the Mako next Saturday.
They'll probably have to put him on the bench, but I think QT (Cotton Bud?) will have to step up this weekend.
the attitude to contact was alarming
There was one beautiful Irish exit in the 2nd half where i think i was Aki drove straight in to the midfield flat out, presented the ball and they cleared close to halfway
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
I think he was hitting it up harder earlier in the season and I can also remember him absolutely creaming some big munter during the Super season with a dominant tackle. Might have been Laumape. Which we haven't seen since.
But, DH has had a season of receiving plenty of ball and tackler at the same time, and he's a bit small for the job of repeatedly charging into the guns. He's more Aaron Mauger (landrover) than Ma'a Nonu (tank).
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Not giving up on DH, just think it's time to give QT a start. There's a chance he might provide a solution.
Yep. ALB's injury has expose the bareness of the cupboard. We didn't have a settled 12/13 in 2019, but it did have some experience.
Dave looks to have run out of gas.
At the end of Super rugby, he was he clear pick to play 12 - but, he's spent the year re-learning the position to play in two different teams, when he was probably expecting/hoping to play fullback for the Mako next Saturday.
They'll probably have to put him on the bench, but I think QT (Cotton Bud?) will have to step up this weekend.
the attitude to contact was alarming
There was one beautiful Irish exit in the 2nd half where i think i was Aki drove straight in to the midfield flat out, presented the ball and they cleared close to halfway
DH does not smack in to it. In fact he hesitates right at the point. That's not fucking helpful.
I think he was hitting it up harder earlier in the season and I can also remember him absolutely creaming some big munter during the Super season with a dominant tackle. Might have been Laumape. Which we haven't seen since.
But, DH has had a season of receiving plenty of ball and tackler at the same time, and he's a bit small for the job of repeatedly charging into the guns. He's more Aaron Mauger (landrover) than Ma'a Nonu (tank).
Last thing needed with rush defences is 'runs sideways' Mauger. He was a lot of the reason we remember Lomu tip-toeing down the sideline. It was all the room he got.
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@crucial Lomu and mauger would have only overlapped for what....a season? how many games did they play together?
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@crucial Yep - but, what are you going to do (said in a NYC accent).
The other midfield options are pretty thin. They switched ALB to 2nd five - something that needed to happen - and he got broken.
So we've got to have neo-QT this week or Dave (who is cooked). And Rieko (who is much better on the wing) or Ennor, who's not really up to it.
Laumape would be quite handy, right about now!
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@crucial Lomu and mauger would have only overlapped for what....a season? how many games did they play together?
8 but the memory holds well.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@crucial Yep - but, what are you going to do (said in a NYC accent).
The other midfield options are pretty thin. They switched ALB to 2nd five - something that needed to happen - and he got broken.
So we've got to have neo-QT this week or Dave (who is cooked). And Rieko (who is much better on the wing) or Ennor, who's not really up to it.
Laumape would be quite handy, right about now!
Or PUJ.
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if only we hadn't let Michael Collins go......
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Here's a thought that is probably going to be unpopular (and John Mitchell/Christian Cullen sounding). Jordie may need to learn to communicate better and direct the players in front of him.
It's hard to tell when watching on TV but he doesn't seem to do a lot of directing or telling others where gaps are etc as another pair of eyes. -
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
But, DH has had a season of receiving plenty of ball and tackler at the same time, and he's a bit small for the job of repeatedly charging into the guns.
My eye test says Havili and Tupaea would be similar in size so I don't believe Havili is only 88 kg.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
But, DH has had a season of receiving plenty of ball and tackler at the same time, and he's a bit small for the job of repeatedly charging into the guns.
My eye test says Havili and Tupaea would be similar in size so I don't believe Havili is only 88 kg.
Tupaea seems a more physical style of player. Sammy T was way smaller than Havilli and was a way more physical player.
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@bovidae Havili is 95-96 kgs on the Mako website.
If he's going to continue playing 2nd five, I'd have him adding bulk in the offseason.
For what it's worth - I think the backs for France will be (or should be):
Smith, Mo'unga, Tupaea, RIoane, Reece, Jordan, Jordie
TJP, DMac, Havili
Reasonable probability they'll send Dave once more unto the breach with QT on the bench though.
