All Blacks vs Springboks I
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Hahaha, Stan were interviewing TJ and he just stopped as the crowd were doing a haka for the team.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
Do you think it was the Boks pressure or were we just really shit?
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Ardie looks pale
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
They used to lift, now they just stop.
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Tj actually stops interview to watch a haka, most impressive thing he’s done all night
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@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
We often do in the first game.
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Bring back Whitelock as Captain.
From Canterbury? Brave call, we'll see how that works for them
Ardie will not turn down the 3 next week
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Weber looked good when he came on. Should have come on much earlier. TJP is like France, one good game one absolute shocker.
Unless his bounce passes are picked up by someone who decides to go God Mode, he's just pants. Sure Havili made a meal of a couple of runs, but one of the passes was straight at his fucking head!
TJP is the guy you bring on when you're 20 points up, clearly. Spends too much time arguing with the ref and being a smart arse. Sure that's a scrum half's job, but ffs work on your executino under pressure.
You put Smith in at 9 and the ABs win by 15.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
We often do in the first game.
Fair point.
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Glad in the end it was a hard fought close game that epitomised a 100 test history. Just a shame some of the skills weren’t on show.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
Do you think it was the Boks pressure or were we just really shit?
Boks pressure to an extent. Their intensity and line speed was good.
We didn't cope well though.
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Hopefully ALB is fit next week so we can move Rieko to the wing and have ALB's solidity in the midfield.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
I foretold this. Its always the same
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TJ Perenara has a kermit voice
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Bring back Whitelock as Captain.
He'll be back for the EOYT, so I assume he'll be captain again. Savea is just the replacement of the replacement captain.
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What a crap, error-strewn game - fucking awful to watch and WR really needs to do something about the stoppages.
A poor AB performance but we dogged a win when we really didn't deserve - dumb errors all over the pitch - but collectively the team deserves a lot of credit for that win. Unlike the RWC Semi against England, there were enough clear heads out there to get us over the line and change tactics when needed
The big takeaway for me from this game is that even when playing like shit, this team can re-focus and get on with the job. That said, there's a shedload of stuff to get sorted out.
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@damo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
Do you think it was the Boks pressure or were we just really shit?
Boks pressure to an extent. Their intensity and line speed was good.
We didn't cope well though.
Give them credit for that. Nothing else
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Savea getting asked what to expect next week, should have said lots of stoppages and box kicks
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@anonymous said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Savea getting asked what to expect next week, should have said lots of stoppages and box kicks
The first two day rugby test…
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SBW should be seen and not heard. Bloody hell.
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I like QT, he needs more time at this level.
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@hooroo When Akira made a big carry to their line in the 2nd half, and he was nowhere to be seen.
Smith on the field we score there.
And he creates control. For me, he can read the game like no one else. TJ was like a headless chicken
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
SBW should be seen and not heard. Bloody hell.
He dropped straight into banter with ya mates chat
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So how can we prepare for next week via selections? Not that many choices. I imaginge Foster would face a bit of pressure if he picks Bridge to start again but he did keep him on the paddock a bit longer than I expected.
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This was their chance to ambush us. We need to stomp them next time. 13+. We just need to be more clinical, play to what the boks give us. Take points on offer
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@hooroo When Akira made a big carry to their line in the 2nd half, and he was nowhere to be seen.
Smith on the field we score there.
Yeah that was disappointing because we were so close.
TJ was off tonight. For someone who’s pass isn’t swift, he needs to get to the breakdown quicker.
All in all though, happy for the team to get the win. These are young guys who are setting their place in AB history, so I’m proud of them.
Even though he didn’t play well, Retallick’s undefeated run against the Boks continues 😃
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I assume Mo'unga will wear the 22 jersey next week; he only comes out of MIQ on Tuesday. Really a short prep time for a test match, even though his hotel room looks like half a gym on his instagram photos. The question is, who'll lose his spot. Surely not Jordie, so it will be between BB and Dmac.
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Isn't RM back next week? Let's hope Paps, ALB and Jacobson are fit.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Why can't you guys play that shit against us?
Boks always lift for us. This has happened before.
Do you think it was the Boks pressure or were we just really shit?
Bit of both. As I said earlier: changing combinations again and then landing in a completely different playing environment is going to have an effect against a more settled Bok lineup.
Boks have kept a very similar core through the tour and actually didn't change much. Maybe their execution was a few points better in the open, and they mauled a LOT better than last week. I'm surprised your coaches weren't examining footage from Brisvegas where the Wallabies barely conceded an inch to figure out how that happened.
Part of it is personnel on the Bok side - I think Orie is a non-contributor to the maul, and De Jager was better as a lift/drive instead of just being the lineout target. They also brought on Marx and Kitshoff very early. There's a range of moving parts there.
But ultimately the ABs' loose style of play is predicated upon breaking a few tackles and getting some ruck or knock-on turnover. Neither of which happened very much tonight. When you get turnover off phase play, there is opportunity. Off a kick there is barely any - Boks put one guy in the air with 2 support, you surround the ball with 3-5 blockers and support of your own, and your counterattack is nullified.
That was a tough watch after minute 3, I will say.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Bring back Whitelock as Captain.
He'll be back for the EOYT, so I assume he'll be captain again. Savea is just the replacement of the replacement captain.
Replacement of the replacement of the replacement (missed Smith)
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About 90% of the team was off tonight. Wasn’t helped by the Boks negativity with stoppages and box kicks.
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@canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
About 90% of the team was off tonight. Wasn’t helped by the Boks negativity with stoppages and box kicks.
We didn't cope with the intensity. Will be better next week
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@broughie He had a rest, last week. His game today was mostly a result of the bad passes from TJP and BB. He was very good on defence, something that is often overlooked.
Yeah, rough to blame havili TOO much when it’s taking five or six minutes to get through tj and bb, the rush defence was on him every time
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So here's my 'Dave playing the long game' theory.
Step 1: Rennie kicks off his first year going all out against the ABs to see if he can figure them out. Finishes up with a win in his last game.
Step 2: bait NZ into keeping Foster on until after the next RWC. Two games at Eden Park? no way he's winning the Bledisloe back this year, but he can still come out of the series with a net gain and shackle the ABs with a clearly inept coach.
Step 3: World Champs come to town. Time to pull out the big guns (literally - Kerevi) and see if he can knock off the current world cup holders. Step 3 complete. Twice.
Clearly well on our way to a third RWC title.
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@machpants I think Smith was a one-game only captain for his 100th?
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As mentioned earlier our set piece was poor, we lost a number of lineouts and our scrum was pinged a number of times. It can't be that bad two weeks and a row.
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@nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
ultimately the ABs' loose style of play is predicated upon breaking a few tackles and getting some ruck or knock-on turnover.
Oh and usually much better support play than we saw tonight. Gotta say your spacing on attack was fucked - might as well just have kicked it downfield.
No drop-behind passing, no scissors or switches, no short kicks. What the fuck was Beaugan doing? Guy was absent and looked like a rabbit in the headlights.
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Absolutely pathetic performance from the ABs. I honestly can’t remember a worse performance across 80min. So glad we already extended the contract of the coach who got them up for the big occasion.
Hopefully that is George Bridge’s last test. Ben Blair mk2.
He was meant to be the high ball guy. If he can’t do that, what does he do?ABs Very lucky Boks showed no interest in playing rugby. Even doing that they should have won. Those who said they were going to be easy beats are looking pretty stupid right now.
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