All Blacks vs Pumas I
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at. If you can get the result without giving anything away then why not?
Of course that also means you don't have "real world" testing of the secret attack.
Dry powder worked great at RWC 19
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at.
Saved it for RWC2019 semifinal did you? 😉
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at. If you can get the result without giving anything away then why not?
Of course that also means you don't have "real world" testing of the secret attack.
Dry powder worked great at RWC 19
Snap
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
Watch the game again and you might learn something.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
Watch the game again and you might learn something.
That you're making things up and don't understand simple concepts like getting tackled with the ball means dying with the ball? I already know that though. Would I also learn that the touch line is about 5-15 metres in from the sideline?
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By the way @kev I was just carrying on the discussion on Bridge and as you would have seen if you didn't get all frothy and make personal attacks amidst the spittle, in my post following the one you quoted I posted in support of Bridge. But hey, you go girl.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
By the way @kev I was just carrying on the discussion on Bridge and as you would have seen if you didn't get all frothy and make personal attacks amidst the spittle, in my post following the one you quoted I posted in support of Bridge. But hey, you go girl.
The fern is definitely more fun when Bridge plays.
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Bridge played OK. He bumped off a couple of players, was fairly physical....if his last name was Clarke the Fern would be ecstatic about his performance.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Bridge played OK. He bumped off a couple of players, was fairly physical....if his last name was Clarke the Fern would be ecstatic about his performance.
If his name was Clarke he would have scored at least one of those chances.
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@kirwan Are you taking the piss? Bridge has a far better nose for the scoreline than Clarke.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kirwan Are you taking the piss? Bridge has a far better nose for the scoreline than Clarke.
Must have had a blocked nose tonight. 😉
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Bridge played OK. He bumped off a couple of players, was fairly physical....if his last name was Clarke the Fern would be ecstatic about his performance.
I don’t mind Bridge’s game normally but he looks low on confidence to me. Needs to find some of that 2019 mojo back.
On the other hand Reece is playing with a huge amount of it. Has a huge work rate on both sides of the ball and has become a very reliable player.
It will be interesting to see whether he or Jordan gets the start vs the Boks. I’d go with Reece.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kirwan Are you taking the piss? Bridge has a far better nose for the scoreline than Clarke.
If there are no defenders anywhere near him, he’s put in the gap, and his team mates point at the try line.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Bridge played OK. He bumped off a couple of players, was fairly physical....if his last name was Clarke the Fern would be ecstatic about his performance.
And if his last name was Masaga, @Nepia would be losing his shit over how hungus he was.
He played a great game for a centre on debut.
I'm going to be very interested if he starts adding a distribution game to his improving carry ability.
