All Blacks vs Pumas I
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@frank said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Not convinced on Va'ai, just seems a pretty ordinary presence on the field.
Agreed.
We're in trouble if we lose either Retallick or Barrett.Yeah I think I would've preferred to see them take a punt on one of the other (bigger) young locks.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
A lot of side to side, get the ball static and swing it on without fixing. Several times in the first 40-50 the guy getting the ball in the second man play was just smacked and stopped. But hey, 40 points later, maybe there's method to the madness? I think if Smith was there it mighta been 60 points.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
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@machpants I think one of our weaknesses is our general play kicking, we put in some very average kicks down the middle of the field that gift possession. I'm curious what the tactical advantage of this strategy is, I guess you gain territory and hope to get turnover ball. I just wonder if against good teams this is a viable option.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at. If you can get the result without giving anything away then why not?
Of course that also means you don't have "real world" testing of the secret attack.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at. If you can get the result without giving anything away then why not?
Of course that also means you don't have "real world" testing of the secret attack.
Dry powder worked great at RWC 19
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at.
Saved it for RWC2019 semifinal did you? 😉
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
So what do we think of general tactics etc, are Foster and co actually doing a good job or have the teams we have faced all been shit.
@NTA pointed out above, not much cleverness on attack. We are superb from turn over, can do rugby basic maul and continuity tries. Obviously have got lots of X factor. But clever attacks as a team? Not much. That was my point at half time, didn't seem too be incisive, tactics/decision wise, on attack.
Yeah I just wonder if there's an aspect of "only use it if we need it" when it comes to alternative attacking. Our attack is just so horribly basic, but hey if you show all your hands then everyone gets the video to look at. If you can get the result without giving anything away then why not?
Of course that also means you don't have "real world" testing of the secret attack.
Dry powder worked great at RWC 19
Snap
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
Watch the game again and you might learn something.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Today he added a lot to our continuity
You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.
He didn’t die with the ball he set it up for the next phase - so that’s just a stupid comment, rugby is all about phase play. Do you know anything? If you go back and have look, he mostly received the ball on the touch line. It’s all a matter of perspective but open your eyes. Most players are not as good or as bad as they are made out to be.
😂😂 Good call, he didn't die with the ball, it's just he got tackled and the phase didn't continue! Do you know anything? 😂
I don't need to go back and have a look, I watched the game. Even if he did only receive the ball on the touch line (which isn't true), he's a fucken winger. Do you know where they stand, have you watched rugby before? 😂
Watch the game again and you might learn something.
That you're making things up and don't understand simple concepts like getting tackled with the ball means dying with the ball? I already know that though. Would I also learn that the touch line is about 5-15 metres in from the sideline?
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By the way @kev I was just carrying on the discussion on Bridge and as you would have seen if you didn't get all frothy and make personal attacks amidst the spittle, in my post following the one you quoted I posted in support of Bridge. But hey, you go girl.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
By the way @kev I was just carrying on the discussion on Bridge and as you would have seen if you didn't get all frothy and make personal attacks amidst the spittle, in my post following the one you quoted I posted in support of Bridge. But hey, you go girl.
The fern is definitely more fun when Bridge plays.
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