All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
ALB having a "knock to the knee" doesn't explain why a guy who isn't a #8 is playing at #8.
In case you missed me pointing it out earlier - I distinctly heard Foster say that for them, Ardie is a #8 who can also play #7.
Don't expect to see a change any time soon, unless Jacobson can somehow force his way in.
It's the problem with having three very good 7s - Foster will be continually tempted to try to cram them into the team.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
It's the problem with having three very good 7s - Foster will be continually tempted to try to cram them into the team.
I think it's just that they aren't comfortable having 3 loosies without many Tests. So Ardie will be in the trio until a 'safe' game or later in the year when the experience has built up
Until then I doubt we see the form trio of Papali'i/Jacobson/Ioane
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@duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
It's the problem with having three very good 7s - Foster will be continually tempted to try to cram them into the team.
I think it's just that they aren't comfortable having 3 loosies without many Tests. So Ardie will be in the trio until a 'safe' game or later in the year when the experience has built up
Until then I doubt we see the form trio of Papali'i/Jacobson/Ioane
i could get with that, except we are playing Hooper and a couple of absolute babies for the Wallabies. This is the perfect time. Especially when they are operating "between" absolute super star veterans at 4,5 and 9
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@duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
It's the problem with having three very good 7s - Foster will be continually tempted to try to cram them into the team.
I think it's just that they aren't comfortable having 3 loosies without many Tests. So Ardie will be in the trio until a 'safe' game or later in the year when the experience has built up
Until then I doubt we see the form trio of Papali'i/Jacobson/Ioane
Ironically Ardie was the one who looked more like a rookie last week. The other two were solid as.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Blackadder should get game time, too. I guess that may happen if Bled 3 is a dead rubber and/or against the Pumas.
Risky, foster has a50% record against the puma
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@duluth Certainly experience will be a factor in Ardie being preferred for now, but longer term - when Cane comes back - if they've designated all of Cane, Papalií and Savea as 7s - one of them would be close to surplus to requirements - especially in a RWC squad.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@chris-b It's sad, but with his injury history, Cane may not make the 2023 RWC squad.
Well, we cross that bridge when we come to it.
But, there's quite a lot of history of people being written off with repeated injuries, but eventually continuing on their own terms. McCaw, Leon MacDonald, Conrad Smith - all looked a bit dodgy at times.
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@frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I distinctly heard Foster say that for them, Ardie is a #8 who can also play #7.
OMG - he seriously said that?
Yup, same as Beaudy shoe horned nto 15, Ardie has been the same for ABs recently and canes too, with Kirifi
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@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
And, if they picked the team tomorrow and everyone was fit, I'd expect Cane and Ardie to be certainties - and Papalií joining them a very good chance. But, Ardie would be listed as an 8/utility.
At the last RWC Ardie started as a 6, played a game at 8 and only started at 7 in the game vs England.
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@frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I distinctly heard Foster say that for them, Ardie is a #8 who can also play #7.
OMG - he seriously said that?
He certainly did. Pretty sure it must have been in the post match comments after Ardie played 7 vs Fiji.
I posted it on here at the time.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Wonder if the wallabies will start Tupou. He can do a lot more damage against Bower than he can against Big Karl.
True although I suspect they will still feel he will do more attacking damage as the game loosens up, but I agree with your point..lets wait and see
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WALLABIES SQUAD TO FACE ALL BLACKS IN SECOND BLEDISLOE TEST
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James Slipper (104 Tests)
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Brandon Paenga-Amosa (13 Tests)
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Allan Alaalatoa (47 Tests)
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Darcy Swain (4 Tests)
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Matt Philip (13 Tests)
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Lachlan Swinton (2 Tests)
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Michael Hooper (c) (109 Tests)
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Rob Valetini (8 Tests)
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Tate McDermott (6 Tests)
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Noah Lolesio (6 Tests)
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Marika Koroibete (37 Tests)
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Matt To’omua (58 Tests)
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Hunter Paisami (10 Tests)
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Andrew Kellaway (3 Tests)
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Tom Banks (15 Tests)
Replacements
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Jordan Uelese (14 Tests)
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Scott Sio (68 Tests)
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Taniela Tupou (29 Tests)
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Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (29 Tests)
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Harry Wilson (9 Tests)
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Nic White (37 Tests)
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Len Ikitau (3 Tests)
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Reece Hodge (47 Tests)
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