Too many events at the Olympics?
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@nostrildamus said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@mn5 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@mikethesnow said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Arguably there may be too few weight classes in something like Men’s Boxing
Super Heavyweight starts at 91kg (200lbs) which isn’t that heavy, let alone super
Good call, that was obviously a pretty sizeable bloke back in the year 1900 but times change. To use a Rugby analogy off the top of my head only Damien McKenzie, Richie Mo’unga and Sevu Reece would be below that, Perenara and B Barrett about the same and the rest considerably bigger ( but still not big enough in some positions )
But then again Rugby numbers are fudged quite a bit, Boxing’s never are.
Reece is 98 kg, he must have used Ardie's kitchen scales..
About 30kg is his head
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I find the swimming debate quite funny. The whole problem is that people treat the Olympics like a dick measuring contest. It seems to be all about how many medals you win. Actually, the Olympics should never be about that.
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing or sailing. One olympic medal in one sport has never been the same as a medal in another sport. There are some sports where it is more of an achievement to come 18th than to win gold in rowing.
So we shouldn't worry that Phelps has more golds than other people. The Olympics are not about winning anyway.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
The Olympics are not about winning anyway.
I don't think you've got the idea of high level sports at all...
It's all about winning, even to the point of showing yourself to be the biggest turd in your sports history is ok, as long as you win. See also drug cheats
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I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
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@catogrande said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
All those millionaires from coming last at the Olympics...
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@catogrande said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
All those millionaires from coming last at the Olympics...
Yep, greatly outnumbering the multi- millionaires coming first 😀
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Lol Stone cold take.
This is idiotic even by your lofty standards
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@mariner4life said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Lol Stone cold take.
This is idiotic even by your lofty standards
Was there another single sentence in that post which couldn't have had the same comment applied?
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@nta said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Righto, we can replace taekwonshit and Boredo for kumite and Kata.
Get that Russian knight fighting shit in it
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So I do wonder if we do live in a simulation and the Interwebs are dialling into my interactions and conversations...
But a few days after our discussion about Stephen Bradbury, ABC Conversations replays 2017 interview with the man himself.
I'll admit, he didn't go after gold by hanging back, but will restate he picked the right tactics on the day.
I like and respect the guy. Listen and laugh if you so desire.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events. -
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events.That's because, as we have already discussed ad nauseam, it is easy to win multiple medals in swimming. Swimming is also more competitive within those countries.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events.That's because, as we have already discussed ad nauseam, it is easy to win multiple medals in swimming. Swimming is also more competitive within those countries.
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When a 13 year old can win a medal at skateboarding, there are too many events at the Olympics. They have jumped the shark.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
When a 13 year old can win a medal at skateboarding, there are too many events at the Olympics. They have jumped the shark.
Gymnasts have been almost that age for some time. Nadia Comaneci was 14 when she got her perfect score at the Montreal Games