Too many events at the Olympics?
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
The Olympics are not about winning anyway.
I don't think you've got the idea of high level sports at all...
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It's all about winning, even to the point of showing yourself to be the biggest turd in your sports history is ok, as long as you win. See also drug cheats
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I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
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@catogrande said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
All those millionaires from coming last at the Olympics...
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@catogrande said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
I think that you are harping back to a golden past when de Coubertin's vision still had meaning. Ever since the Soviet bloc cheated their way to showing the superiority of communism that ideal was toast (probably before, in all honesty). Making the Olympics open to professionalism has only increased the importance of winning on an individual level.
All those millionaires from coming last at the Olympics...
Yep, greatly outnumbering the multi- millionaires coming first 😀
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Lol Stone cold take.
This is idiotic even by your lofty standards
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@mariner4life said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Lol Stone cold take.
This is idiotic even by your lofty standards
Was there another single sentence in that post which couldn't have had the same comment applied?
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@nta said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Righto, we can replace taekwonshit and Boredo for kumite and Kata.
Get that Russian knight fighting shit in it
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So I do wonder if we do live in a simulation and the Interwebs are dialling into my interactions and conversations...
But a few days after our discussion about Stephen Bradbury, ABC Conversations replays 2017 interview with the man himself.
I'll admit, he didn't go after gold by hanging back, but will restate he picked the right tactics on the day.
I like and respect the guy. Listen and laugh if you so desire.
The struggle and strife behind Steven Bradbury's win at Salt Lake City - ABC listen
At the age of 20, speed skater Steven Bradbury nearly died on the ice. Then he won history's most unexpected gold medal (R)
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events.That's because, as we have already discussed ad nauseam, it is easy to win multiple medals in swimming. Swimming is also more competitive within those countries.
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@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@hydro11 said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Swimming is a genuinely tough sport to win medals in. It is easy to win multiple medals if you are extremely good but who cares? If we were talking about difficulty of medals, it is still way tougher than rowing
LOL wut?
Rowing are easy medals. You need a lot of investment and internationally it is not very competitive.
Now that the swimming and rowing are finished at the Tokyo Olympics we can look at your claim in some detail.
In rowing's 14 events there were 17 nations that medalled. More countries won a medal than events.
In swimming's 35 events there were 21 nations that medalled. Less countries won a medal than events.In rowing the top three nations medalled in 33% of the events.
In swimming the top three nations medalled in 55% of the events.That's because, as we have already discussed ad nauseam, it is easy to win multiple medals in swimming. Swimming is also more competitive within those countries.
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When a 13 year old can win a medal at skateboarding, there are too many events at the Olympics. They have jumped the shark.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
When a 13 year old can win a medal at skateboarding, there are too many events at the Olympics. They have jumped the shark.
Gymnasts have been almost that age for some time. Nadia Comaneci was 14 when she got her perfect score at the Montreal Games
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I’m obviously a massive swimming fan but I’m not sure how it’s easier to win a rowing medal than a swimming medal. At least in swimming you can get guys from Singapore, Tunisia and even Surinam on the podium. Obviously facilities are an issue but most countries will have public pools. But with rowing you need to purchase and maintain the very expensive kit, store it etc. And then of course you have the Northern European and American countries that can’t even row for months of the year because of the freezing temperatures and ice.
I would say rowing is far less accessible to the vast majority of the population than swimming.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
I would say rowing is far less accessible to the vast majority of the population than swimming.
That wasn't the point under discussion. Relative competitiveness - how easy it is to win a medal. For example in 35 events only 10 nations won gold in swimming. The top two nations won 57% of the gold medals. In rowing 11 nations won a gold in only 14 events. The top two nations only won 36% of the gold medals. @hydro11's argument is demonstrably wrong.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
When a 13 year old can win a medal at skateboarding, there are too many events at the Olympics. They have jumped the shark.
Did you see the 10m diving yesterday? Chinese girl was 14 and won by the length of the straight.
