Frizell assaults woman
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
Ah fuck this fluffybunny. Just like Sevu. I just wish our All Blacks wouldn't assault people. Fucking disgraceful. I'm fine with rehabilitation for people who do these things but people like this shouldn't be public figures and representing our nation.
have to say, when i was at uni in dunners most people that used their diversions did so for things like taking a piss somewhere a little too public or in one case nicking all the pool balls from a pub, maybe pinching a road sign...not so much fighting let alone hitting a woman
Not that I am taking his side, but 'hitting a woman' is not what this def is. Assault can be pushing someone over, bump into someone in a bar, they push you, you push them, they fall over, knocking their girlfriend to the ground too (cos you're a huge AB) - that's it your up for assault. Doesn't matter if they pushed first, you assaulted them. As we don't know the facts, you can't just go to hitting - when assault is a ridiculous range of things
@duluth said in All Blacks 2021:
At the moment the only punishment is some public humiliation and going to whatever anger management course his lawyer enlists him in.
I would like to see him removed from the current AB squad. At least then there would be a financial penalty. It also serves as a warning to others
We have a perfectly good squad replacement in Robinson. He should've made the original squad IMO
After that I don't really care. It sounds like a low level incident - he can come back later if he's good enough (..and based on his efforts at Test level so far, he is not good enough)
Yup
None of us know what happened. It could be something minor like I got dragged into recently. A bit of incidental bumping on the dance floor between a male and female, boyfriend gets all manly and fronts the guy who bumped his girl. Males face off , bit of pushing, female gets in the middle and cops a stray punch. Male now subsequently looking at the possibility of an assault charge on the female. A big fucking mess with all parties contributing. Like most drunken assaults.
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@derpus said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky DV doesn't seem to factor too heavily into AB selection policy
As long as you're not a dick about it then it's fine
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
Ah fuck this fluffybunny. Just like Sevu. I just wish our All Blacks wouldn't assault people. Fucking disgraceful. I'm fine with rehabilitation for people who do these things but people like this shouldn't be public figures and representing our nation.
have to say, when i was at uni in dunners most people that used their diversions did so for things like taking a piss somewhere a little too public or in one case nicking all the pool balls from a pub, maybe pinching a road sign...not so much fighting let alone hitting a woman
Not that I am taking his side, but 'hitting a woman' is not what this def is. Assault can be pushing someone over, bump into someone in a bar, they push you, you push them, they fall over, knocking their girlfriend to the ground too (cos you're a huge AB) - that's it your up for assault. Doesn't matter if they pushed first, you assaulted them. As we don't know the facts, you can't just go to hitting - when assault is a ridiculous range of things
@duluth said in All Blacks 2021:
At the moment the only punishment is some public humiliation and going to whatever anger management course his lawyer enlists him in.
I would like to see him removed from the current AB squad. At least then there would be a financial penalty. It also serves as a warning to others
We have a perfectly good squad replacement in Robinson. He should've made the original squad IMO
After that I don't really care. It sounds like a low level incident - he can come back later if he's good enough (..and based on his efforts at Test level so far, he is not good enough)
Yup
None of us know what happened. It could be something minor like I got dragged into recently. A bit of incidental bumping on the dance floor between a male and female, boyfriend gets all manly and fronts the guy who bumped his girl. Males face off , bit of pushing, female gets in the middle and cops a stray punch. Male now subsequently looking at the possibility of an assault charge on the female. A big fucking mess with all parties contributing. Like most drunken assaults.
Yep - I was all anti-Sevu Reece, until I stumbled across one description of what his "male assaults female" incident (might have) entailed, and reading it... between the lines... it seemed more like "pissed-up-female is a fucking nightmare, pissed-up boyfriend tries to deal with it but fucks up in a clumsy (rather than aggressive) manner".
But... much like this incident... we're all just reading after-the-fact shit that crappy NZ newspapers decide to share, and... fuck knows. -
Not to over egg the sauce, but we had people here in 2019 claiming that Akira Ioane breaking team curfew and having some beers was reason enough for excluding him from the ABs. Super Rugby players break curfew or team rules and get a few weeks off. This guy goes to court for three counts of assault and gets one week off, what kind of joke team is Foster running? Garbage coach, flush him now.
Fucking pathetic.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer Slap on the wrist. Weak from Foster and co.
What s it to do with Foster?
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Not to over egg the sauce, but we had people here in 2019 claiming that Akira Ioane breaking team curfew and having some beers was reason enough for excluding him from the ABs. Super Rugby players break curfew or team rules and get a few weeks off. This guy goes to court for three counts of assault and gets one week off, what kind of joke team is Foster running? Garbage coach, flush him now.
Fucking pathetic.
Que?
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@booboo I wonder from your question if
a. they (the posters you refer to) believe Foster has slapped him with a moist bus ticket or
b. you question whether Foster is actually in charge.. or
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo I wonder from your question if
a. they (the posters you refer to) believe Foster has slapped him with a moist bus ticket or
b. you question whether Foster is actually in charge.. or
c. you don't think this is the remit of the coach...It’s not within the remit of the coach as an employment matter- breaching team rules is, not once the law is involved
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@machpants they better be ready for some bad publicity.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo I wonder from your question if
a. they (the posters you refer to) believe Foster has slapped him with a moist bus ticket or
b. you question whether Foster is actually in charge.. or
c. you don't think this is the remit of the coach...C. Discipline is an employment issue, to be handled by NZR.
Although you could argue that perhaps Foster could impose his own selection policy around "better people etc".
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@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
Geez Foster is amazing taking charge of so many roles normally done by NZRU and other staff. The attempts to rubbish him on things he is not really involved in staggers me. Shows how little fans understand.
I hear Foster visited a Wuhan lab too…
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
@derpus said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo Don't the ABs have a strict no dickhead policy?
I remember GH used to be high on character
Except they picked Sivivatu who hit his wife.
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And others such as Lauaki who hit a security guard in 2006 and got diversion, then trashed a motel room, then committed DV (after his AB career).
More here including Moala, Nonu (booze), Savea, Weepu (disorderly), Stephen Bachop, and All Black 'X' (permanent suppression).
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adam thompson got in some trouble too didn;t he?
