Hurricanes 2022
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
Halfbacks: two still need to be announced. Jamie Booth is all but guaranteed but I think if we can get someone like Enari, that would be a solid trio.
Cortez Ratima from Waikato, guy's been starting over Xavier Roe.
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@kiwi_expat I'd be fuming I'd the Chiefs didn't have him in the set-up. But we've seen stranger things.
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@stargazer he already has.
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@canes4life Possibly, but it hasn't been officially confirmed yet. That's why I haven't posted it in the Exodus thread, yet.
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@canes4life "Selon nos informations" is rather vague. That's just one of the media rumours. It is probably true, but as I said, it hasn't been confirmed by the club or player.
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@stargazer said in Hurricanes 2022:
It will be interesting who will wear the 10 jersey most often in 2022: JGB or Love. Both are quite limited: JGB limited in talent and speed, and Love limited in SR experience and nous. I can't see Morgan getting much game time yet. He's been struggling in NPC and has been signed way too soon by the Canes. There's no way he's ready for the step up.
All are pretty average goal kickers, too. When Jordie is playing, that's no issue, but when he's not ...
JGB will likely be the Canes starter 1st. With Love on the bench covering 1st and FB. And JGB from memory is not a bad goal kicker
But it will make little difference. Holland seems to prefer recruiting mediocre players or older players rather than looking to recruit a potential future AB. It will ensure the Canes are never in the running for years to come to win anything regardless of how successful the goal kicker is.
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@winger not sure if that will be the case, I think they are going backwards if they start JGB over Love. We all know Garden-Bachop isn’t the future so why would you select him over the man that is?
Doesn’t really matter, with Jordie in the team there’s only one man doing the kicking.
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@canes4life said in Pasifika SR team:
@Crucial you mean Peter Umaga-Jensen? He's trucking nicely thank you very much. He's been pretty dominant for Wellington this year (and last year for that matter). Already been capped by the All Blacks and will be looking for a big year at 12 (unless Holland decides to leave him out again). Cam Roigard, well he's injured but I'm looking forward to seeing what he has when he makes his return down the track. Devan Flanders, expect him to be an AB in the next World Cup cycle. Ardie Savea, well the man speaks for himself. Oh, and Jordie Barrett, he just saved our blushes against South Africa didn't he?
Not sure what you're getting at?
Brought this discussion over from the Pacifica thread.
When PUJ and TUJ were at school you were touting them as storming onto the scene and quickly becoming superstars. Both good players still with potential to reach high levels (and maybe stay there this time) but haven't exactly set the world on fire
We saw a very brief flash of what could be from TUJ before injury and, as you say, PUJ's candle flared for a moment then he couldn't even make Super level as a must pick. You can blame the coach all you like but an awesome player will demand selection.Roigard. Yep, looked like he had some goods that could result in higher honours but hardly screaming out as 'one to watch'.
Flanders? I think Super may be his ceiling. He doesn't stand out as having any more than the plethora of (very talented) competition.
Ardie? I think you may find that it was @Higgins and I that were discussing him as 'better than Jules' when he was still at school.
Jordie? Glad you saw his potential from that family of unknown grafters.
We all see players that are worth keeping an eye on. Just saying that it doesn't always translate to 'star'. Those guys really do stand out. Love isn't one of them. He does look like he has skills and a good head on him which could carry him a long way though.
A good example of someone who really did trick everyone, including the ABs, is Fifita. Phenomenal at Club, did amazing things at Provincial, looked like he could bring them to Super, then went backwards. I have no idea what really happened there but it seemed that he struggled with the transitions and couldn't work out why what worked at one level couldnt work at another.
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@crucial I remember touting both of them as being future stars of our game (super star is probably a little too far). They are both only 23 or something so they've got plenty of time to prove me right. It hasn't helped that TUJ has spent almost his whole career watching from the sidelines. Hopefully he can catch a break in 2022.
I think 2022 is also a make or break year for PUJ, he's carving up the metres in the NPC at the moment and will be keen to grab that 12 jersey for the Hurricanes. We are crying out for a bigger 12 at test level and I think one of the UJ brother's can stake claim to that jersey eventually if they produce the goods at Super.
You're 100%, at the end of the day it's crystal ball gazing, some players over achieve and others fail to reach the lofty heights that some of us expect.
I've been right plenty of times, but I've also been wrong on players aswell. That's just part and parcel of being a speculative fan.
I'm just glad my pay cheque doesn't rely on it.
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@crucial said in Hurricanes 2022:
When PUJ and TUJ were at school you were touting them as storming onto the scene and quickly becoming superstars. Both good players still with potential to reach high levels (and maybe stay there this time) but haven't exactly set the world on fire
We saw a very brief flash of what could be from TUJ before injury and, as you say, PUJ's candle flared for a moment then he couldn't even make Super level as a must pick. You can blame the coach all you like but an awesome player will demand selection.Don't want to get into a debate on Canes selection but
a. I don't recall anyone saying awesome and
b. "awesome" is an awfully high selection criterion, even for the Canes.
c. PUJ played for the ABs and looked comfortable. It is not like NZ is crawling with good midfielders, let alone having players that "set the world on fire" (strange that international arson is now the selection criteria, I'd be happy for a stable midfield).
e. oh and Christian Cullen says hi.https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123003336/all-blacks-vs-wallabies-beaming-peter-umagajensen-follows-uncle-tanas-bootmarks-into-camp
Foster continued: “In the second part of Super Rugby Aotearoa he had a massive desire to play. He was strong with ball in hand and ran some great lines and he beat some very good defenders. Jack [Goodhue] and Alby [Lienert-Brown] both found him quite a handful with some of the lines he ran.“We’ve seen a real attitude with his work rate and he’s grown in his defence. He’s a young guy who had a lot of potential when he came out of school then probably plateaued a little bit.
“He’s now learning what it is to work hard and be a little bit more professional off the park. The Hurricanes have done a great job in that space and what we saw when he got the opportunity is someone who is ready to go. That’s the kind of energy we want him to bring in here.”
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
@mikey07 good chance we will sign Howden, he trained a lot with the Hurricanes last year as part of their Under 20s group.
Believe it when I see it
