Hurricanes v Chiefs
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@bovidae said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@arhs Yeah I would be happy with that, although that means Brown plays lock when he comes on. Sowakula still looks a little way off being up to SR level based on what I saw today.
Brown is semi-passable at lock, particularly off the bench. But you're right, it would definitely be nice to have a bit more size there (seems to a problem for a couple teams).
Van den Hoven could put on some weight, but has the height. Kali Vaipulu from BoP looked huge from a pic I saw of him on Facebook. Still U20 level. Does anyone know anything more about him?
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@bobily2 said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Kali Vaipulu from BoP looked huge from a pic I saw of him on Facebook. Still U20 level. Does anyone know anything more about him?
He's tall alright. Vaipulu didn't get much time on the field for BOP today. One for the future.
Van den Hoven didn't start BOP's first game either, and never really stood out when he was playing. Another of their locks was the most prominent.
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Amazing comeback from the Chiefs, I'd written them off at halftime after such a dire first half, riddled with penalties and mistakes. I was surprised how poorly the Canes played in the second half, they'll be pissed at one lone penalty.
Mainly I'm just glad they've broken the losing streak. That had the opportunity to get far far worse than it was. I know DMac gets a lot of criticism, but gees he has ticker.
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@antipodean not that I really disagree with you but
Do we have the type of 10 you are talking about in the country
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@bovidae said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@bobily2 said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Kali Vaipulu from BoP looked huge from a pic I saw of him on Facebook. Still U20 level. Does anyone know anything more about him?
He's tall alright. Vaipulu didn't get much time on the field for BOP today. One for the future.
Van den Hoven didn't start BOP's first game either, and never really stood out when he was playing. Another of their locks was the most prominent.
Yea, I'm not sure Van den Hoven will ever stand out. Its possible he won't be a liability, though (particularly in terms of his size in comparison to other alternatives).
That was the Taranski lock who stood out? Coffin? Let's hope him and Vaipulu continue to develop. We have a bit of a shortage of tall, strong locks who aren't prone to injury
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@pakman said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@bones said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Anyone else trying to watch on rugbypass and got an old replay of the breakdown or something?
My matchpass started 16 in?
Yeah pretty shithouse eh. It wasn't even the latest replay of the rugby show they had on! If there's issues, at least put it in the site.
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Good point.
I’m not convinced about him as a 10 for the ABs but I do think that his best chance of staying an AB is to be a 10/15 rather than a 15/10.
At Super level, and especially for this Chief’s side, I also dont think we have much choice except getting him to touch the ball more often (for better or worse), and if we put the responsibility of driving the team around we might be able to reduce the amount of times he runs across the field for no purpose.
He did a great job tonight putting the defense in two minds, and played within himself pretty well. At Super level (and not necessarily above), when he is like that, he’s probably the 3rd or perhaps even 2nd best 10 in NZ, and clearly the best in this Chief’s side right now.
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@derpus said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@antipodean I think he should definitely start at 10 for the All Blacks. And Jordan Barrett has 14 all wrapped up.
hold on a minute
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Well can't say I didn't expect that result.
Everyone could see the Canes had selected a team to get beat by most NPC teams.
How we reward the coaches with a contract extension is ridiculous. Why do the Canes let so many good players go, and attract so few talented players? I expect us to go winless this year, and just downhill unless we can make major changes, which is obvious we won't. -
@bones said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@pakman said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@bones said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Anyone else trying to watch on rugbypass and got an old replay of the breakdown or something?
My matchpass started 16 in?
Yeah pretty shithouse eh. It wasn't even the latest replay of the rugby show they had on! If there's issues, at least put it in the site.
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@gt12 said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Good point.
I’m not convinced about him as a 10 for the ABs but I do think that his best chance of staying an AB is to be a 10/15 rather than a 15/10.
At Super level, and especially for this Chief’s side, I also dont think we have much choice except getting him to touch the ball more often (for better or worse), and if we put the responsibility of driving the team around we might be able to reduce the amount of times he runs across the field for no purpose.
He did a great job tonight putting the defense in two minds, and played within himself pretty well. At Super level (and not necessarily above), when he is like that, he’s probably the 3rd or perhaps even 2nd best 10 in NZ, and clearly the best in this Chief’s side right now.
The endless myths and stories of DMac, eh?
Still being accused of being a headless chook when ,if anything, the opposite is the case. He seems to me to be being deliberately constrained and there’s plenty of times he is passing when a crack would be a good option.
It wasn’t until he freed up last night that things started happening for the team.
Most times when he dances sideways it is because there is no value in sending himself into a compromised position and he needs support. If a gap appears then he can take advantage.
If people can’t see the difference an on form DMac makes to a team they are being deliberately blind.
Do I think he should be driving the ABs? No. Not as a starter. But FFS the guy has talent to burn. -
@crucial said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@gt12 said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Good point.
I’m not convinced about him as a 10 for the ABs but I do think that his best chance of staying an AB is to be a 10/15 rather than a 15/10.
At Super level, and especially for this Chief’s side, I also dont think we have much choice except getting him to touch the ball more often (for better or worse), and if we put the responsibility of driving the team around we might be able to reduce the amount of times he runs across the field for no purpose.
He did a great job tonight putting the defense in two minds, and played within himself pretty well. At Super level (and not necessarily above), when he is like that, he’s probably the 3rd or perhaps even 2nd best 10 in NZ, and clearly the best in this Chief’s side right now.
The endless myths and stories of DMac, eh?
Still being accused of being a headless chook when ,if anything, the opposite is the case. He seems to me to be being deliberately constrained and there’s plenty of times he is passing when a crack would be a good option.
It wasn’t until he freed up last night that things started happening for the team.
Most times when he dances sideways it is because there is no value in sending himself into a compromised position and he needs support. If a gap appears then he can take advantage.
If people can’t see the difference an on form DMac makes to a team they are being deliberately blind.
Do I think he should be driving the ABs? No. Not as a starter. But FFS the guy has talent to burn.Couldn't agree more, it's called maturing as a player. Not sure why some feel they have to judge players they don't like on what they did a couple of years back , and that not a dig at mariner, just I think we need to enjoy players finding improvement in their game.
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Jeez some of you are being very harsh on Trask. An argument can be made that the Chiefs went better with McKenzie at 10, but to call Trask poor is a tad unfair. I thought he did well for a young fella with not a lot of experience.
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@antipodean said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@bobily2 said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@frank said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@tim said in SRA Round 4: Hurricanes v Chiefs:
DMac needs to start at 10 for the Chiefs.
DMac needs to be given more time at 10, and maybe given another try at 10 for the ABs.
Fuck right off.
He did well at 10 against France in his first start there. One of the best games I've seen from an AB 10 over the last 4 or 5 years
Is that a joke? The France game where they had one foot on the plane already?
Jesus christ one good half against a shit Canes team and people are calling for him to be five-eighth for the All Blacks.
Wouldn't say he's first choice 10.
But he's currently probably next in line behind Mo'unga
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