All Blacks 2021
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
The tight five selections for the next squad seem pretty locked in now (Moody is out), except for 3rd tight head prop.
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Karl Tu'inukuafe
Aidan Ross
Alex Hodgman
Nepo Laulala
Ofa Tu'ungafasi
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Codie Taylor
Dane Coles
Asafo AumuaLocks
Sam Whitelock
Brodie Retallick
Patrick Tuipulotu
Scott BarrettTrain with the team:
Tamaiti Williams
Samisoni Taukei'aho
Tupou Vaa'iProbably only one thing I would change is I think I would have Vaa'i ahead of PT, think he is already ahead of PT!
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A Hogman
De Groot
A RossC Taylor
A Aumua
D ColesN Laulala
O Tuangafassi
T LomaxS Whitelock
P Tuipulotu
S Barrett
T Vaii (brodie has the same issue as tj - he needs to play for a nz team to be eligible?)A Savea
E Blackadder
D Papalii
H Sotutu
A Ioane
S FrizzellA Smith
B Webber
??R Moanga
D McKenzie
M Hunt (BB same issue as tj and brodie?)D Havili
A Lenert-Brown
R Ioane
B EnnorL Fianganuku
W Jordan
J Barrett
S Recce
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@mackerzzzz BB and BBBR played in Japan while under NZR contracts with agreed sabbatical clauses so they can play for the ABs straight away, if picked.
TJP's situation is a bit different. His contract with NZR came to an end. He signed then to play in Japan. Then later on he asked to have his Japanese contract terminated for personal reasons so he could come back to NZ. He is not eligible for the ABs until he plays for a NZ-based side again.
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@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky
I would pick them but these games are perfect to blood a few new players so I would understand if they aren't.Without reading back, hasn’t Fozzie already said the there will be two squad selections? The first one may be to have a better look at some players while the next is the “first choice” one?
BB and BBBR may find themselves in the first squad so they can get a gauge on size/fitness etc compared to the old data -
@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:
@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky
I would pick them but these games are perfect to blood a few new players so I would understand if they aren't.Without reading back, hasn’t Fozzie already said the there will be two squad selections? The first one may be to have a better look at some players while the next is the “first choice” one?
BB and BBBR may find themselves in the first squad so they can get a gauge on size/fitness etc compared to the old dataYup, 35 players in both squads. A squad selection for the July tests, and then again for the championship.
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I hope one thing and that's they're not going to use the first squad for some odd Brett Cameron type of selections. I only want players in it that really deserve it and would have a good chance of being selected for the second squad as well if it wasn't for some senior or injured players returning. Don't want "for old times' sake" selection like the Bus, either.
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Nareki has been good, but for me he's like another Sevu Reece and we don't need two of them in the ABs - and Sevu has also been good this year.
I remain convinced that a significant problem in our RWC loss to England was our back division was collectively too small. Nareki is another little wing.
Caleb Clarke put his hand up and showed the value of a power wing last year. We don't have him this year, but lets pick a couple of others and see what they can do.
Both still works in progress but I'm on a bandwagon for Big Leicester and Even Bigger (Philippe's Little Boy) Salesi.
Rayasi is the closest thing we've had to Jonah, since Jonah. Let's just fucking pick him!!!
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@chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:
Nareki has been good, but for me he's like another Sevu Reece and we don't need two of them in the ABs - and Sevu has also been good this year.
I remain convinced that a significant problem in our RWC loss to England was our back division was collectively too small. Nareki is another little wing.
Caleb Clarke put his hand up and showed the value of a power wing last year. We don't have him this year, but lets pick a couple of others and see what they can do.
Both still works in progress but I'm on a bandwagon for Big Leicester and Even Bigger (Philippe's Little Boy) Salesi.
Rayasi is the closest thing we've had to Jonah, since Jonah. Let's just fucking pick him!!!
I’m totally on board with this idea, and think they need to start giving him really high quality coaching, because he’s relatively new to rugby and it often shows with some of his silly decisions. He’s a weapon though , so if we invest in him now he could be ready for 2023.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 Exactly.
Jonah wasn't ready when we first picked him - and then he was.
The other problem is that sending him back to NPC won’t tell us anything new, and might slow him down because he can get away with not developing additional tools, plus some of those silly decisions won’t hurt so much, and the coaching can be very iffy (especially looking at Auckland’s current issues).
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@gt12 If Fozzie is picking a sort of development squad for the first tests, then you've got to think it would be madness not to at least have him in that.
What's interesting to me is how different the styles of Rayasi and Leicester are. Leicester pretty much seeks contact and fights to stay on his feet and set a target. Rayasi much more elusive, but when he's tackled he seems to go to ground pretty easily. Hopefully we can develop some hybridized versions.
Of course, a challenge with Rayasi is that he's so big that, unless they're well positioned, defenders struggle to get their arms around him properly and are just brushed aside.
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@nostrildamus Seems like most places are listing Rayasi at 105kgs now - but, last time I looked (probably last year), he was billed as more than that and I recall bigger than Leicester.
Anyway, big enough!
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@chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus Seems like most places are listing Rayasi at 105kgs now - but, last time I looked (probably last year), he was billed as more than that and I recall bigger than Leicester.
Anyway, big enough!
Rayasi is more a finesse type winger despite his size. He loves the draw and pass, no look offload, getting in between two defenders. Leicester is more your bully-boy type, drag two defenders hanging off you for an extra 5 metres type.
If there’s room for both, great let’s have both.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
he’s relatively new to rugby
Hmmm... you sure about that?
Not as sure as I was!
Must be my reading some bad intel or getting things mixed up, as I was pretty confident, but a quick google shows he gave up rugby for basketball after already being an academy player, rather than being into Basketball through high school (and therefore having a lot more to learn).
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