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    family man
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    @bones I think Julian savea form has been very good recently! Would not rule him out as the power winger. Finding form at the right time I think and has that experience.
    I am a big nareki fan and would love him to get picked
    Fainganuku I think lacks the X factor! Ok he has the power but lacks pace and just looks a bit disinterested at times

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    @family-man Good call. Great to see Da Bus back in form. Hopefully he can continue that in the next few weeks for the Hurricanes and then for the ABs.

    I'd love to see the big man from Miramar score more tries for the ABs.

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    @family-man @sparky tell him he's dreaming!

    No complaints about his form this weekend though.

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    The tight five selections for the next squad seem pretty locked in now (Moody is out), except for 3rd tight head prop.

    Props

    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Aidan Ross
    Alex Hodgman
    Nepo Laulala
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    ?

    Hookers

    Codie Taylor
    Dane Coles
    Asafo Aumua

    Locks

    Sam Whitelock
    Brodie Retallick
    Patrick Tuipulotu
    Scott Barrett

    Train with the team:

    Tamaiti Williams
    Samisoni Taukei'aho
    Tupou Vaa'i

    Probably only one thing I would change is I think I would have Vaa'i ahead of PT, think he is already ahead of PT!

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    A Hogman
    De Groot
    A Ross

    C Taylor
    A Aumua
    D Coles

    N Laulala
    O Tuangafassi
    T Lomax

    S Whitelock
    P Tuipulotu
    S Barrett
    T Vaii (brodie has the same issue as tj - he needs to play for a nz team to be eligible?)

    A Savea
    E Blackadder
    D Papalii
    H Sotutu
    A Ioane
    S Frizzell

    A Smith
    B Webber
    ??

    R Moanga
    D McKenzie
    M Hunt (BB same issue as tj and brodie?)

    D Havili
    A Lenert-Brown
    R Ioane
    B Ennor

    L Fianganuku
    W Jordan
    J Barrett
    S Recce
    J Nareki

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    @mackerzzzz BB and BBBR played in Japan while under NZR contracts with agreed sabbatical clauses so they can play for the ABs straight away, if picked.

    TJP's situation is a bit different. His contract with NZR came to an end. He signed then to play in Japan. Then later on he asked to have his Japanese contract terminated for personal reasons so he could come back to NZ. He is not eligible for the ABs until he plays for a NZ-based side again.

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    @sparky
    I would pick them but these games are perfect to blood a few new players so I would understand if they aren't.

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    @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky
    I would pick them but these games are perfect to blood a few new players so I would understand if they aren't.

    Without reading back, hasn’t Fozzie already said the there will be two squad selections? The first one may be to have a better look at some players while the next is the “first choice” one?
    BB and BBBR may find themselves in the first squad so they can get a gauge on size/fitness etc compared to the old data

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky
    I would pick them but these games are perfect to blood a few new players so I would understand if they aren't.

    Without reading back, hasn’t Fozzie already said the there will be two squad selections? The first one may be to have a better look at some players while the next is the “first choice” one?
    BB and BBBR may find themselves in the first squad so they can get a gauge on size/fitness etc compared to the old data

    Yup, 35 players in both squads. A squad selection for the July tests, and then again for the championship.

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    I hope one thing and that's they're not going to use the first squad for some odd Brett Cameron type of selections. I only want players in it that really deserve it and would have a good chance of being selected for the second squad as well if it wasn't for some senior or injured players returning. Don't want "for old times' sake" selection like the Bus, either.

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    #663

    Nareki has been good, but for me he's like another Sevu Reece and we don't need two of them in the ABs - and Sevu has also been good this year.

    I remain convinced that a significant problem in our RWC loss to England was our back division was collectively too small. Nareki is another little wing.

    Caleb Clarke put his hand up and showed the value of a power wing last year. We don't have him this year, but lets pick a couple of others and see what they can do.

    Both still works in progress but I'm on a bandwagon for Big Leicester and Even Bigger (Philippe's Little Boy) Salesi.

    Rayasi is the closest thing we've had to Jonah, since Jonah. Let's just fucking pick him!!! 🙂

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    Nareki has been good, but for me he's like another Sevu Reece and we don't need two of them in the ABs - and Sevu has also been good this year.

    I remain convinced that a significant problem in our RWC loss to England was our back division was collectively too small. Nareki is another little wing.

    Caleb Clarke put his hand up and showed the value of a power wing last year. We don't have him this year, but lets pick a couple of others and see what they can do.

    Both still works in progress but I'm on a bandwagon for Big Leicester and Even Bigger (Philippe's Little Boy) Salesi.

    Rayasi is the closest thing we've had to Jonah, since Jonah. Let's just fucking pick him!!! 🙂

    I’m totally on board with this idea, and think they need to start giving him really high quality coaching, because he’s relatively new to rugby and it often shows with some of his silly decisions. He’s a weapon though , so if we invest in him now he could be ready for 2023.

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    @gt12 Exactly.

    Jonah wasn't ready when we first picked him - and then he was.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 Exactly.

    Jonah wasn't ready when we first picked him - and then he was.

    The other problem is that sending him back to NPC won’t tell us anything new, and might slow him down because he can get away with not developing additional tools, plus some of those silly decisions won’t hurt so much, and the coaching can be very iffy (especially looking at Auckland’s current issues).

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    @gt12 If Fozzie is picking a sort of development squad for the first tests, then you've got to think it would be madness not to at least have him in that.

    What's interesting to me is how different the styles of Rayasi and Leicester are. Leicester pretty much seeks contact and fights to stay on his feet and set a target. Rayasi much more elusive, but when he's tackled he seems to go to ground pretty easily. Hopefully we can develop some hybridized versions.

    Of course, a challenge with Rayasi is that he's so big that, unless they're well positioned, defenders struggle to get their arms around him properly and are just brushed aside.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    Salesi

    Rayasi is taller but lighter than Big Leicester, right?

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    @nostrildamus Seems like most places are listing Rayasi at 105kgs now - but, last time I looked (probably last year), he was billed as more than that and I recall bigger than Leicester.

    Anyway, big enough! 🙂

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    he’s relatively new to rugby

    Hmmm... you sure about that?

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    Bones
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    Ennor.... seriously can anyone explain what he brings to the table? Hasn't he only even played one game?

    Hunt, struggles with consistency at super level, I'd be very worried about him at test level.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus Seems like most places are listing Rayasi at 105kgs now - but, last time I looked (probably last year), he was billed as more than that and I recall bigger than Leicester.

    Anyway, big enough! 🙂

    Rayasi is more a finesse type winger despite his size. He loves the draw and pass, no look offload, getting in between two defenders. Leicester is more your bully-boy type, drag two defenders hanging off you for an extra 5 metres type.

    If there’s room for both, great let’s have both.

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