All Blacks 2021
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
Quite a few of the players are religious too, should we “hate” them too, or is your bigotry only directed at the coach?
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@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
this thread was more fun before you all scared off @NZbloke
You had a small part to play in that too.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find too many coaches around that don't follow some kinda faith system.
Razor is clearly Buddhist.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Most aren't concerned with losses, but more specifically, our directionless, helter-skelter style under Foster.
Really? My impression is most people are way more concerned about the slide in AB performances in the last 6 years and trying to understand the causes rather than concentrate simplistically on the last 2 years and offering equally simplistic, magic-bullet solutions.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Human relations 101, it's even in a NZ written university text book; the highest predictor of positive future performance is past positive performance in a similar role. It's about 70% accurate, other predictors are not much more these 50%, or not much better than chance no matter what product and a recruiting firm would want to sell you (beware of their hype as they're selling their product).
In decades of business and improving business performance, I've never come across a HR person who deals and leads with personal or team performance - that's always done by line managers and specialist performance people.
And equally, the idea that you can judge a persons suitability or likely performance for a role solely or mainly by their past performance is utter bollocks as it doesn't take the slightest account of environmental factors.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
by all means, double down
we almost won that game.
Sounds like a Welsh fan, not an AB one.
1953 was awhile back boyo
According to Fitzy, it still hurts. Something he picked up from his dad apparently
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
Interested in your thoughts on Vince Lombardi - widely regarded as the finest high performance team sports coach ever.
Each day on his way to work for the Green Bay Packers, Lombardi would stop at St. Willebrord Church and "offer a prayer in case of unexpected death: 'My God, if I am to die today, or suddenly at any time, I wish to receive this Communion as my viaticum ... '".[127] He regularly attended Sunday Mass at Resurrection Church in the Allouez neighborhood of Green Bay's southeast side, always sitting with his wife in the middle of the ninth pew.[ -
@african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwibloke Yeah, I agree and see your angle, but he had a lot more of a role to play at domestic level and the intensity of Super Rugby is miles down on test level, where there is a lot less focus on the defensive side of the game, hence why you see Laumape hugging the touchline, popping up at first receiver and showing more of short kicking game, and lets not forget, last season he and Jordie Barrett were the only big names in the backline, hence the need for him to offer more in attack.
We never really saw this from him at test level however as his lack of size would see him get monstered by bigger defences at the highest level with his power game that he loved, similar to Sam Tuitupou of years gone by, and there's less room to move for him at the highest level due to a higher focus on the defensive side of the game as well as the darker arts.
So yes, he was more effective at domestic level with more time and room to move, but ineffective at the highest level with defences quickly up in his face, nulifying his power running to go with his small stature.
Did Sammy T get monstered at test level? I honestly don't remember that.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find too many coaches around that don't follow some kinda faith system.
Razor is clearly Buddhist.
With his whirling dance moves I would have thought Sufism...
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@nostrildamus keeps his shoes on, innit
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
Today I learned that scientists can't be religious! Seriously, one of the dumbest criticisms of a coach on this board.
I'm an atheist, but like Frank I don't begrudge people their faith. And the fact is we live in a Christian country, even if it's impact is lower than in the past. If you start excluding religious people from sport teams you aren't going to be left with many people.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
@frank said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:
Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.
Bloody good point mate.
Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.
I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.
Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.
I think you'd be hard pushed to find too many coaches around that don't follow some kinda faith system.
Razor is clearly Buddhist.
doesnt he have a comb over cunning bugger is trying to hide it from us
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@Victor-Meldrew
I have read your posts on this thread and I do agree there are more things wrong with AB rugby than just Foster and you make some really valid points on that.What is your opinion on Foster as a coach do you rate him or not really?.
Genuine question being asked here. -
No need to over-think this people. Where's Razor.
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@chris said in All Blacks 2021:
@Victor-Meldrew
I have read your posts on this thread and I do agree there are more things wrong with AB rugby than just Foster and you make some really valid points on that.That's obviously true when you look at puzzle palace's contributions to its Trans Ta$man neighbour and securing investment. That aside, we know that his current team wasn't Foster's first choice. It appears his strength lies in culture and he's relying on the expertise of his coaches technically. The problem is that at least one of them isn't up to the task (I'm looking at you Mooar). So if the review doesn't address this paucity in competence in the staff, and better rated coaches aren't prepared to change their current employment to move into those vacated positions then that leaves us with only two options:
- Stick with them until the next big post RWC cycle merry-go-round.
- Gut them now for a secured better option.
Option one is a path to mediocrity IMO. Everyone I speak to who isn't obviously brain damaged sees we're playing stupidly obvious patterns that don't make defenses make decisions. The same patterns we've been playing for ages.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
stuff worth a double upvote
