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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    this thread was more fun before you all scared off @NZbloke

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

    @l_n_p we select ABs from overseas then the game is pretty much dead here. Will be a weaker version of Wales in the 80s.

    Agreed and it's reality for NZR. It would be a disaster. It was more in reply to a comment on black-and-white thinking that's all

    Fossie isn't the best, but the NZR selection process last round that annointed him seems the bigger issue imo ... obviously the elite coaching talent "out there" all have connections and talk - realised it was a closed shop. Every large organization starts to lower it's standards once it all becomes a bit chummy ... and here we today?

    As an analogy - it's why many large companies prefer to promote from within up to a pretty senior level (say VP, SVP) yet the very top and innovative strategic roles (CEO, COO, maybe CFO too) are external hires far more often than not

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    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    by all means, double down

    we almost won that game.

    Sounds like a Welsh fan, not an AB one.

    1953 was awhile back boyo

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    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”
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    #2926

    also this:

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    also this:

    Insightful stuff 😖

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    Quite a few of the players are religious too, should we “hate” them too, or is your bigotry only directed at the coach?

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    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.

    Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

    this thread was more fun before you all scared off @NZbloke

    You had a small part to play in that too. 🤨

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @chris no idea what youre talking about 😉

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.

    Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.

    I think you'd be hard pushed to find too many coaches around that don't follow some kinda faith system.

    Razor is clearly Buddhist.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Most aren't concerned with losses, but more specifically, our directionless, helter-skelter style under Foster.

    Really? My impression is most people are way more concerned about the slide in AB performances in the last 6 years and trying to understand the causes rather than concentrate simplistically on the last 2 years and offering equally simplistic, magic-bullet solutions.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Human relations 101, it's even in a NZ written university text book; the highest predictor of positive future performance is past positive performance in a similar role. It's about 70% accurate, other predictors are not much more these 50%, or not much better than chance no matter what product and a recruiting firm would want to sell you (beware of their hype as they're selling their product).

    In decades of business and improving business performance, I've never come across a HR person who deals and leads with personal or team performance - that's always done by line managers and specialist performance people.

    And equally, the idea that you can judge a persons suitability or likely performance for a role solely or mainly by their past performance is utter bollocks as it doesn't take the slightest account of environmental factors.

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    @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    by all means, double down

    we almost won that game.

    Sounds like a Welsh fan, not an AB one.

    1953 was awhile back boyo

    According to Fitzy, it still hurts. Something he picked up from his dad apparently

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.

    Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.

    Interested in your thoughts on Vince Lombardi - widely regarded as the finest high performance team sports coach ever.

    Each day on his way to work for the Green Bay Packers, Lombardi would stop at St. Willebrord Church and "offer a prayer in case of unexpected death: 'My God, if I am to die today, or suddenly at any time, I wish to receive this Communion as my viaticum ... '".[127] He regularly attended Sunday Mass at Resurrection Church in the Allouez neighborhood of Green Bay's southeast side, always sitting with his wife in the middle of the ninth pew.[
    
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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwibloke Yeah, I agree and see your angle, but he had a lot more of a role to play at domestic level and the intensity of Super Rugby is miles down on test level, where there is a lot less focus on the defensive side of the game, hence why you see Laumape hugging the touchline, popping up at first receiver and showing more of short kicking game, and lets not forget, last season he and Jordie Barrett were the only big names in the backline, hence the need for him to offer more in attack.

    We never really saw this from him at test level however as his lack of size would see him get monstered by bigger defences at the highest level with his power game that he loved, similar to Sam Tuitupou of years gone by, and there's less room to move for him at the highest level due to a higher focus on the defensive side of the game as well as the darker arts.

    So yes, he was more effective at domestic level with more time and room to move, but ineffective at the highest level with defences quickly up in his face, nulifying his power running to go with his small stature.

    Did Sammy T get monstered at test level? I honestly don't remember that.

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ian Foster never coached overseas and he has walked into the All Black head coaching job.

    Bloody good point mate.
    Shit, just another good reason for me to hate Foster.

    The real clincher for me was discovering Fozzie is also a conservative Christian.

    http://www.faithnet.co.nz/sound/2008/IF08-C1.mp3
    Steve Dunne – “Radical Islam – Radical Christianity”

    I don't begrudge people their beliefs mate.

    Sure, but Foster's a guy in an extremely high profile & important position, and his beliefs certainly aren't reflective of an evidence-based approach, which is imperative in any high performance sporting environment.

    I think you'd be hard pushed to find too many coaches around that don't follow some kinda faith system.

    Razor is clearly Buddhist.

    With his whirling dance moves I would have thought Sufism...

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