All Blacks 2021
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan Well, I see it differently.
Sotutu has yet to convince me and I don't like Cane at 6 (and is not a long term option aged 29 and breaking so often). Haven't seen Jacobson much in the black 6 jersey either. I think Blackadder makes more sense at 6.
If Sotutu has another anonymous SR season, and others step up, I'd like to see them given a chance, especially if they finally realise that they need to drop Frizell. We have so many young locks now in the mix, that I'd rather see them focus on developing the backrow (finding the right mix).
Anyway, the squad is unusually big this year, so they're more likely to drop people without replacing them, next year.
As pure number eight options, really only Sotutu and Jacobson looking AB level from Super Rygby (I'll ignore your mistaken opinion about Sotutu having an anonymous season).
Ardie and Blackadder both look more effective at seven, and need to be left there IMO. We can't keep making the same mistakes against the bigger teams.
That means a big player, like Akira or Jacobson, at six. A specialist eight, and specialist seven.
That means Akira, Jacobson and Ardie for me (ignoring Cane until next year). Dalton covering 6/7 from the bench.
Hilarious how you always present your opinion as fact and that of others as a mistake.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan Well, I see it differently.
Sotutu has yet to convince me and I don't like Cane at 6 (and is not a long term option aged 29 and breaking so often). Haven't seen Jacobson much in the black 6 jersey either. I think Blackadder makes more sense at 6.
If Sotutu has another anonymous SR season, and others step up, I'd like to see them given a chance, especially if they finally realise that they need to drop Frizell. We have so many young locks now in the mix, that I'd rather see them focus on developing the backrow (finding the right mix).
Anyway, the squad is unusually big this year, so they're more likely to drop people without replacing them, next year.
As pure number eight options, really only Sotutu and Jacobson looking AB level from Super Rygby (I'll ignore your mistaken opinion about Sotutu having an anonymous season).
Ardie and Blackadder both look more effective at seven, and need to be left there IMO. We can't keep making the same mistakes against the bigger teams.
That means a big player, like Akira or Jacobson, at six. A specialist eight, and specialist seven.
That means Akira, Jacobson and Ardie for me (ignoring Cane until next year). Dalton covering 6/7 from the bench.
Hilarious how you always present your opinion as fact and that of others as a mistake.
We're allowed to express a different opinion to yours, aren't we? And those opinions are just as valid/invalid as yours!Umm, if you re-read you'll see I used the term In My Opinion. Not sure how I could make that any clearer for you?
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan My comment in my previous post was clearly a reaction to the bolded bit and not to the rest of your post, where you indeed use the acronym IMO. Anyway, you'll no doubt disagree with this also. That's fine.
Oh, you didn't like me treating your opinion as an opinion, not a fact? Hilarious.
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The All Blacks are in Europe ahead of an action-packed Tudor Northern Tour, which kicks off against Wales in Cardiff this weekend.
They then take on Italy in Rome and Ireland in Dublin before wrapping up the tour against France in Paris. In New Zealand you’ll be able to watch all the action live and exclusive on Sky Sport NZ.Check out the broadcast guide below to find out how and where to watch the All Blacks in action on the Tudor Northern Tour.
The Wales Test match from Principality Stadium in Cardiff kicks off at 5.15pm on Saturday 30 October (local time) and Sunday 31 October at 5.15am NZT.
New Zealand - All games will be live on Sky Sport 1, Sky Go and Sky Sport Now.
Australia - Stan Sport & beIN Sports
Sub Saharan Africa - SuperSport
South America, Central America & Carribbean - ESPN Sur
Pacific Islands/PNG - Digicel
UK - Amazon (Prime Video)
Ireland - Channel 4 + RTE
Spain - Telefonica/Movistar+
Italy - TBC (to be confirmed)
Portugal - Sport TV
France - beIN Sports + L’Equipe
Scandinavia + Baltics - NENT
Netherlands - Ziggo
Georgia - Rugby TV
Czech Republic - Nova TV
Middle East/North Africa - beIN Sports + Premier Sports
Japan - WOWOW
Pan-Asia - Premier Sports
USA - Flo Sports
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
Haha, twisting words again. You are the one having trouble accepting when people disagree with you, not me. You always want the last word. But go on, respond again and you'll have it.
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
You see, now you're wording your opinion as an opinion, and not as a fact like you did earlier. Well done. You're learning. Do you want a stamp with that?
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How long have you two been dating?
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
Haha, twisting words again. You are the one having trouble accepting when people disagree with you, not me. You always want the last word. But go on, respond again and you'll have it.
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
You see, now you're wording your opinion as an opinion, and not as a fact like you did earlier. Well done. You're learning. Do you want a stamp with that?
Only twisting going on here is by you.
It's pretty obvious to everyone but you that me saying your opinion is mistaken is my opinion. I can't help if you decide to treat that as a fact.
I guess it's a compliment?
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the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
The Jordie v DMac battle got settled so I can relax a bit more now. Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though
that's the best one. BB and Mo'unga are the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses, but the guys in each camp will back them to the hilt as the superior player
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
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Can we talk about Sotutu's AB form this year as well? He can still make mistakes but overall I thought he has played ok? (I admit I have not seen one game, and not sure I can bear to).
He is still young and I like the way he uses his long arms to disrupt the maul and some of his passing is very sweet for a loose forward. But he can also struggle to impose himself when the going gets hard (perhaps this is just an AB forward characteristic, sigh...) I still think he could be a longterm AB 8 and so could Jacobson (although I did like seeing LJ at 6). -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though
that's the best one. BB and Mo'unga are the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses, but the guys in each camp will back them to the hilt as the superior player
Mo'unga will inevitably win that battle, though - not because he's the better player, but just because BB is older and has lost and will continue to lose the good parts of his game that glossed over the flaws in his game (the same flaws that Mo'unga has)
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@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
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