What’s out there at Second Five?
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@bovidae said in Blues 2021:
@bones said in Blues 2021:
@crucial said in Blues 2021:
Highlanders have also found 12 a troublesome position
Not quite true really, Highlanders found an excellent 12 and after finally getting him and his midfield partner into prime form, disappeared them.
Currently coaching his old school 1st XV.
Not surprised he's got into coaching after seeing the shit show that got one of the top jobs last year.
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ALB is the best 12 in the country. Hands down. Outside him for the All Blacks we have a ton of options in Goodhue, Ennor, PUJ and Ioane. In a 23 either Goodhue provides cover for 12 as the starting 13, or off the bench, or we have the impact of Laumape off the bench, or try Havili'i off the bench. It's not really that bad. Even Dallas McLeod has shown signs this season of settling into SR level and then potentially making the leap.
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@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@chris gun starters, but I almost threw up on your bench. Clarke, Faingaanuku, McKenzie, Laumape might be some better names to throw in there somewhere (at least at the end).
To be fair I forgot about Clarke which shows me he has been underwhelming this season.
But I wouldn’t mind Clarke,Faingaanuku or McKenzie in that last bench position.
Reece has been good though high work rate recently.
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@chris said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
Havilli at 2nd Five,ALB centre would be what I would like to see.
Smith,Mounga,Havilli,ALB,Jordan, Rieko,JB
Weber,BB,Reece on the Bench
- Would consider swapping RM & BB.
- Reece starts or nothing, so nothing. I'd have e Clarke and DMac and even Bridge in front of him on the bench
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@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@chris gun starters, but I almost threw up on your bench. Clarke, Faingaanuku, McKenzie, Laumape might be some better names to throw in there somewhere (at least at the end).
Oh yeah, and them
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@shark said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
ALB is the best 12 in the country. Hands down. Outside him for the All Blacks we have a ton of options in Goodhue, Ennor, PUJ and Ioane. In a 23 either Goodhue provides cover for 12 as the starting 13, or off the bench, or we have the impact of Laumape off the bench, or try Havili'i off the bench. It's not really that bad. Even Dallas McLeod has shown signs this season of settling into SR level and then potentially making the leap.
half right ALB is best midfielder we have the question which position to play him and who with
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I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
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@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
What's the basis of that?
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@nzzp said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@crucial said in Blues 2021:
Wish we still had him in the mix.
He was looking so good before the injuries. Such rotten luck. 2016 should have been his year
He has been tremendous for Lyon.
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@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
Umaga-Jenson twin centres?
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@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
What's the basis of that?
He was outstanding vs Crusaders. He looked very useful.
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@kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
What's the basis of that?
He was outstanding vs Crusaders. He looked very useful.
Fair enough, I hadn't picked up that he was that good!
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@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
What's the basis of that?
He was outstanding vs Crusaders. He looked very useful.
Fair enough, I hadn't picked up that he was that good!
He’s a decent sized unit.
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@pakman said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@bones said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@kiwi_expat said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
I firmly believe Thomas Umaga-Jensen from Highlanders will be the eventual long-term All Blacks 12, pairing with ALB or Goodhue at 13.
Was really gutted when he got injured. Tony Brown reckoned he could've been an All Black as early as this year..
What's the basis of that?
He was outstanding vs Crusaders. He looked very useful.
Fair enough, I hadn't picked up that he was that good!
He’s a decent sized unit.
Not really fair is it, twins are supposed to be small.
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@ploughboy said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
@shark said in What’s out there at Second Five?:
ALB is the best 12 in the country. Hands down. Outside him for the All Blacks we have a ton of options in Goodhue, Ennor, PUJ and Ioane. In a 23 either Goodhue provides cover for 12 as the starting 13, or off the bench, or we have the impact of Laumape off the bench, or try Havili'i off the bench. It's not really that bad. Even Dallas McLeod has shown signs this season of settling into SR level and then potentially making the leap.
half right ALB is best midfielder we have the question which position to play him and who with
It's exactly that kind of thinking that has created to the mess our midfield is in. ALB is clearly our best second-five but is just one of a number of guys in the upper tier of centre options. So you play him at 12 and pick the best available centre from the rest of the group to play outside him.
