Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them. -
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'd be picking him there because it would be the best team. But I'd prefer JG/Roane over Roane and any other wing.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?
The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?
The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out
Not talking about selected for team. I am referring to selection in position.
Goodhue knows that he is in a rotational midfield where both he and ALB cover both spots.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.
Where's the evidence that he is still a test force on the wing? He fizzled and struggled for form IIRC
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.
Where's the evidence that he is still a test force on the wing? He fizzled and struggled for form IIRC
Settle down Mr Bridge
, he was carrying an injury last year (yet still managed to outrun and outscore the guy who replaced him during the Super comp) and his form this year in more traffic has been great, no reason to think he wont be able to replicate that one position out. -
People picking Roane to start on the wing and move into centre are people looking for ways to lose. Would be a defensive catastrophe. If he starts on the wing he stays there unless we're up by a gazillion.
Like @Sparky's team, best balance in the backs although I can't really see Reece not getting a start.
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@junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Moody, Taylor, Ofa, Patrick, Whitelock, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, Smith, B Barrett, R Ioane, ALB, Goodhue, Jordan, J Barrett
Coles, Karl, Nepo, Vaai, Savea, TJP, Mounga, Clarke
It’s cool how many ABs you’re on a first name basis with
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I figured I'd just enter @ACT-Crusader 's team on his behalf:
Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Dunshea, Grace, T Chief/Captain, T Cane, T Highlander, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
Playing ALB at 2nd 5/8, Goodhue at centre and Reiko on the wing is hardly fucking shoehorning.
All in the position they've played most of their rugby until this year, and all in their position that will provide most benefit for the team.
Shift Roane to centre and you get a compromise at wing.
Shift Goodhue to 12 and we really compromise 12.
Yes, Roane is excellent at 13. But so is JG.
