Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@ACT-Crusader It has finished.
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Haven't bothered to read back through the post-game posts.
My thoughts:
Jordie to 15, Clarke to start next week please.
I like Roane at 13, his pace in that channel is awesome, constant danger. He needs to sort the defensive stuff though.
Dmac can go the bench and stay there, or Beaudy - if he's recovered.Where was the drop-goal?
Mo'unga looks less than ordinary when he doesn't have a dominant pack, be it Canterbury, Crusaders or the AB's. I think Beaudy would've managed us around the park a little better today, and while I am the biggest BB fan, I would still have Richie start for at least the next week.
Forwards need to lift collectively, except Cane. Cane proved he's our starting 7. I would like still like to see Cane at 6, Savea at 7,and Sotutu at 8. I'd give Akira a shot over Frizzell after today, not that he was overly terrible, but we'll still looking for that dominant 6 ain't we.
Glad it wasn't a loss, draw fair enough result, again though where was the drop-goal - I think BB was slammed for not sorting that out, so thats a big X against TJP & RM for their management in the 87th and 88th minute.
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@rotated said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Congratulations Fozzie. You did something Henry or Hansen didn’t achieve and that is lose the first Bledisloe match against a new Wallabies coach.
Henry got one over Connolly and Hansen got one over McKenzie in their first outings though. If Fozzie has the chance to match up against another Aussie coach I'll be stunned.
The leader in the clubhouse for worst first year is Laurie Mains' and Fozzie ain't off to a good start
He doesn’t have a losing %
#silverlinings
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Changes I'd like to see:
BB at 10
JB at 12
Goodhew at 13
Ioane and Clarke on the wings
Jordan at fullback
Robertson as coach. -
Best part for the Wallabies from that press conference was they have a coach that doesn’t blame the refs. When asked about the try where Reiko was out, he basically shrugged and said it was part of the game.
I’m concerned they got the better coach listening to them both.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
If Williams is your best ref, NZR is in bigger trouble than their poor administrative negotiation style shows
The best reffing display in NZ for 2020 happened yesterday in an NPC game and it was Angus Gardner with the whistle
And yet...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@rotated said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Congratulations Fozzie. You did something Henry or Hansen didn’t achieve and that is lose the first Bledisloe match against a new Wallabies coach.
Henry got one over Connolly and Hansen got one over McKenzie in their first outings though. If Fozzie has the chance to match up against another Aussie coach I'll be stunned.
The leader in the clubhouse for worst first year is Laurie Mains' and Fozzie ain't off to a good start
He doesn’t have a losing %
#silverlinings
We don't have a fixture against NSW scheduled we can lose either like in 1992. So that's another #silverlining.
(Watch them schedule one now midweek while they are there for six weeks for TRC)
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Changes I'd like to see:
BB at 10
JB at 12
Goodhew at 13
Ioane and Clarke on the wings
Jordan at fullback
Robertson as coach.Good luck with the last one. Far too slim.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Best part for the Wallabies from that press conference was they have a coach that doesn’t blame the refs. When asked about the try where Reiko was out, he basically shrugged and said it was part of the game.
I’m concerned they got the better coach listening to them both.
Love this, the Clown would have lost his shit over that. RIoanes try could have been awarded, its swings and roundabouts, they could have prevented the try in other ways, blaming the ref or single moments is pointless.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 I did notice Fozzie had inherited more than he bargained for from Hansen.
Was Hansen coaching or Fozzie..?
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 I did notice Fozzie had inherited more than he bargained for from Hansen.
Was Hansen coaching or Fozzie..?
I was referring to his substantial girth, not the playing style
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Our set piece saved us in that game, we stole plenty of lineout ball and got a number of scrum penalties. We also got a number of crucial penalties with Oz on our line. If Oz can fix their lineout and cleanout better we could be in a lot of trouble. I thought White was excellent with his sniping runs. Their wingers ran hard and fast, kind of like if we had Clarke and Reece/Ioane.
I didn't think the problem was our forwards, we gave away a lot of possession and some errors on D.
I do wonder if Fozzie knows any other way apart from the Hansen way considering that is the only environment he has been in for ages. I would have loved to have seen how the AB's would have played under Rennie.
Based on that performance he's a poor man's late 2019 Hansen. I was expecting more physicality and precision, but it was the same "let's wait until they make an error and then score on the counterattack" tactic that proved so effective in Japan. I really hope he turns it around but jesus that was one of those "worst fears come true" games.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Best part for the Wallabies from that press conference was they have a coach that doesn’t blame the refs. When asked about the try where Reiko was out, he basically shrugged and said it was part of the game.
I’m concerned they got the better coach listening to them both.
You're not the only one
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I've calmed down a bit now, having had to go pay $430 to get my daughter's macbook fixed after she spilled water on it last week.
That whole process - forking out money to Apple
- was more enjoyable than watching Williams referee.And before you get going: I completed my field test with NSW Rugby and am an accredited ref so I come from a position of knowledge on this. So... yeah... suck my balls all of you armchair fucking refs
As an introductory note: how AFG missed that foot on the line will forever be a mystery. You make a living out of this Angus. The lines are nice and straight. Stick your fucking flag up. Does it make some kind of cosmic justice thing when Ioane refuses to mess up his hair while dropping the ball later? No. It does not.
Some refs - a lot of the French ones - just let players sort it out, mostly. Sometimes that can looks weird, but then they make a decision and you figure they're just keeping the threshold for intervention high i.e. they don't want to be the star attraction. Sometimes the decision made is a head scratcher but you sort of accept French people are weird and move on.
Williams tends to avoid decisions whenever he can - even when it is blindingly obvious that a decision needs to be made. In the first half Mounga gets rid of the ball and a full second later Wilson absolutely clatters him - right in front. Williams sort of puts his arm out and then does nothing. Just gets on with things. Multiple tackles from both teams go high - not dangerously so, but potential for escalation which should be ruled on early to set a marker - and he does nothing.
He rightly pings Tupou for being a shitwit at ruck time (twice
) because it is well past the back of the ruck when he finishes trying to piss off Aaron Smith (a noble pursuit). But I counted at least three times for each team where a cleanout happened from the side of the ruck and did zero.Penalises Koroibete for going off his feet when no AB was contesting the ball, then lets it go for another Wallaby player in the same situation and says nobody was contesting the ball
Of course, there are the big ones - the biggest of which is probably the two scrums later in the second half where Alalaatoa hands out a complete reaming to Karl T (who packed at an angle, pushed at an angle, and got folded into an angle on the ground), and tells the Wobs "you're not getting it", then does Sio for exactly the same thing at the next scrum. What were the fucking ARs doing while Alalaatoa was introducing Big Karl's forehead to the turf?
I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the referee review. It isn't easy - I know that from personal experience even at my gumby level of refereeing. But there are head scratchers and then there is out and out inconsistency that leads to incompetence.
EDIT: oh and the 2 short arms against Australia for going early at scrum time? Every fucking ref knows that the second one is a penalty you tit.
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Some thoughts
Cane shouldn't be in front of haka, his mouth is too small.
Pat T and Ofa still have question marks about their ability to start tests.
Clark and Sotutu need to start. Lomax looked good in the closing minutes as well.
RM was really out of sorts (was it a tight 5 problem?), need to start BB.
Nick White was allowed to snipe again.....sigh..... has anyone in the coaching box seen the games last year. Why is he given so much space yet again? Shit coaching! -
At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
