AB Captain
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When I read people suggesting Cane not have the captaincy of the All Blacks and his position is under pressure I wonder what games they're watching.
"Oh the Chiefs are terrible". What's he supposed to do, select and coach them too?
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@Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby
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@reprobate said in AB Captain:
@Crucial
Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.
Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.
Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.
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@Crucial said in AB Captain:
@reprobate said in AB Captain:
@Crucial
Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think.Now we're getting into crazy. (for the ABs discussion)
(that's why I put the Blues bit). Got the tools though.
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
@Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby
Tana was 31 when he first captained in 2004. He only captained for 2 years. That was an excellent appointment.
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@Bones said in AB Captain:
@reprobate said in AB Captain:
@Crucial
Sotutu would be worth a look at 7 I think. Not generally a fan of 'get the best guys on the field, then sort the positions out', but I would like to see him have a crack there for the Blues, with Akira at 8 and Robinson at 6, Dalton covering the bench.I like Cane, I think dropping him in the WC was a terrible decision. Leadership group for sure, but captaincy I'm not sure of. The Chiefs have looked pretty headless.
Yeah I reckon Tuipulotu should be given a crack at prop. It'd be good to have a captain in the front row.
Aaron Smith might be a good shout for hooker too with that accurate throw.
Well that's just stupid. Clearly if you start Tuipulotu at prop, you can't have Smith at 2 because his feet wouldn't touch the ground in scrums. I think the better way to go would be Jordie at hooker next to Patrick, that way you'd at least have a nice angling scrum, that'd properly mess with the oppo.
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@KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong
to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again
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@Machpants said in AB Captain:
@Bones said in AB Captain:
@voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.
You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!
But he's got the tools.
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@Bones said in AB Captain:
@Machpants said in AB Captain:
@Bones said in AB Captain:
@voodoo ok but Ardie MUST play halfback.
You can't put the tallest player in the sqaud at nine!
But he's got the tools.
Gobby Shite?
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
@Crucial you have to ask? long term planning, continuity in leadership in the case of a captain or building that shorthand between players in the case of the actual rugby
He's 28 FFS NOT 38!
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
@KiwiMurph not arguing when its a pretty clear choice as that was from memory, not a hard and fast rule or anything, just thought a given that if given two options equal in every sense except age you'd pick the younger one given the benefits you might get from being longer in the job, might be wrong
to be clear, not campaigning for cane to loose the job, just as likely he'll have a blinder first game up for the AB's and this is never mentioned again
So who's the young gun that's going to be captain?
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@Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played
it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
@Crucial slow down here, as i say, not starting a petition, was just a comment on how weird it is having a captain announced so long before a game has been played
it wasn't so much about a young captain, i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey
Ok sorry. Didn't realise that your confusion was causing brain scrambles
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
i was talking about younger guys that have stuck their hand up for the 7 jersey
Who have they been? I wouldn't select Kirifi, Dalton, Christie or Hunt of Cane. None of them are close. Gibson is always broken. It's really just down to Ardie and Sam. I prefer to start a test match with Sam and bring on Ardie for impact.
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@Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form
thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion
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@Kiwiwomble said in AB Captain:
@Nepia 100% percent admit im bias but id give Hunt a go, he's been epic, i know its subjective but pretty common pick in "team of the week" type articles suggest he's in a rich vein of form
thats putting the captaincy aside of course, taking that into consideration it obviously becomes a more one sided discussion
I like Hunt, he's come back well this year after seemingly falling off the charts in recent years but can't see him surpassing Cane.
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@Nepia ironically i think he suffered a similar situation at the landers, Lentjes was tagged as captain and so got the 7 jersey, i never felt his form really dropped much
