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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    In an ideal world you would want Fijians (and Samoans and Tongans) playing for their own country but the opportunities for education and sport are more limited there. France is more a threat to Fiji than NZ is for poaching their players. The same for Fijians ending up in the British army.

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    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bovidae

    I don’t have a huge problem with it until they turn out for the ABs. He should play for Fiji - he’s Fijian who was brought in to help a school be more successful at rugby.

    Even if he had been committed to NZ it wouldn't be so bad, but, he'd signed a contract to play overseas which showed he had little attachment to NZ, other than the fact the Crusaders and NZR gave him a lifeline after his being a prick caused him to lose his overseas contract.

    The Hansen throw the baby out with the bath water wing experiment was pretty much a failure at the RWC too. Reece only scored against Namibia.

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    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @mariner4life

    To help develop and educate people from the islands.

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    @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @mariner4life

    To help develop and educate people from the islands.

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    @Bovidae

    Poachers gonna poach.

    So long as we understand that we have to wear that Albatross when the NH scribes get to write their columns, I guess that's fine.

    I don't see why we need to engage in this kind of blatant poaching though.

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    @Stargazer I'll restate my premise; it's 'easier' from the Crusaders.

    You kind of make my point for me with this:
    The Crusaders wouldn't have signed guys like Bryn Hall and others from out of the regions, because these players wanted to be there and were "discarded" by other franchises. These players always had the talent. These other franchises simply didn't recognise the talent and/or weren't able to develop the potential.

    If you have the talent, it has been easier to make the ABs from the Crusaders. Because, as you say, other franchises didn't recognise it, or develop them to their potential.

    and of course, a winning culture, supported by a competent set of administrators, and surrounded by good players helps 🙂

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    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones

    I think that Fozzie has said they see him as a winger who can play center (rather than the other way around), so I assume that if he is to start it will be at 11 or 14.

    Nope...not the point. He's playing centre, so including his stats in a list of wings is about as meaningful as including Barrett's in a list of 10s.

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    @Bones

    Ah, sorry, I see. Fair point although I took those stats from Fox sports selecting 'wingers' only. I guess Rieko has had one or two starts on the wing, so gets put in that section too?

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    @gt12 ah right ok, they're for the whole year? Sorry I figured they were for SRA.

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    @Bones

    I honestly don't know, but I think they are for the whole year.

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    @Bones Those Fox stats are for the first 7 rounds of SR only and don't include SRA.

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    @Stargazer haaa I'll shut up then!

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    @Stargazer SRA stats (by player) available easily somewhere?

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    @gt12 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find them. Maybe they don't compile this list for a one-off comp?

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by gt12
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    @Stargazer

    Yeah, they release leaders in some categories here, and games stats on ESPN.

    It sucks that ESPN don't seem to put them together in a database for comparison.

    Edit 8and edit): A quick look at the game player stats from last week shows that Reece created plenty (2 try assists, 2 Defenders beaten, 1 clean break), but also has the problem of turning it over (4 turnovers which lead the team). Over two weeks he's attempted 7 tackles and made 5.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 go on, you know you want to...

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    @Bones

    There is probably enough capability here for us to design something that trawls the ESPN stats page post game then accumulates them for each player over time?

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    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones

    There is probably enough capability here for us to design something that trawls the ESPN stats page post game then accumulates them for each player over time?

    It's already been designed I think.

    It's called a @Stargazer

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    wrote on last edited by sparky
    #149

    Jordie Barrett showed his range of skills. He must be a probability for the AB squad when it is eventually named.

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    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Jordie Barrett showed his range of skills. He must be a probability for the AB squad when it is eventually named.

    Yeah, if he carries on like this he's a shoe in.

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