RWC - how the poms beat us..
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@mariner4life said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@WillieTheWaiter say what you want about Eddie, but he's a fucking clever coach.
He certainly is, but the All Blacks is a massive blind spot for him. Four years of planning not to win the competition, but to merely beat a contender.
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@antipodean that is some very tough marking.
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@Smuts said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@antipodean that is some very tough marking.
But pretty much true. Eddie virtually admitted as much during an evening audience with him. From the word go he was targeting NZ in RWC 2019. It was the same in 2003 and both times it worked but maybe came a game too early.
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@Catogrande It isn’t wrong exactly, so far as it goes.
But wat was the alternative?
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@Smuts said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@Catogrande It isn’t wrong exactly, so far as it goes.
But wat was the alternative?
I’m not sure about alternatives which probably explains my coaching career peaking with the St Leonards Primary School tag rugby squad.
What I think it does show though is that Eddie has a blind spot or maybe obsession re the ABs. During the audience thing mentioned above he actually said and this was in respect of not only his England tenure but also Aus and the Brumbies, “we cannot compete with the natural athleticism of the New Zealander’s”.
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@mariner4life said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
I'm sort a foot in both camps. If you can manipulate the defense with out just smashing it up a bit first, you do that.
I hate it as a rugby saying because it basically is held to mean "smash it up before you let the blouses have the ball" which is total bullshit.
Coz you shouldn't let the blouses gave the ball at all?
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@Catogrande said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@Smuts said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@antipodean that is some very tough marking.
But pretty much true. Eddie virtually admitted as much during an evening audience with him. From the word go he was targeting NZ in RWC 2019. It was the same in 2003 and both times it worked but maybe came a game too early.
Jones wasn't out coached in the final; England were just outplayed.
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@hydro11 said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@Catogrande said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@Smuts said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@antipodean that is some very tough marking.
But pretty much true. Eddie virtually admitted as much during an evening audience with him. From the word go he was targeting NZ in RWC 2019. It was the same in 2003 and both times it worked but maybe came a game too early.
Jones wasn't out coached in the final; England were just outplayed.
Kyle Sinkler getting injured and going off in the firat five minutes s and Dan Cole having to pkay 75 minutes plus was unfortunate for them.
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@Catogrande said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@Smuts said in RWC - how the poms beat us..:
@antipodean that is some very tough marking.
But pretty much true. Eddie virtually admitted as much during an evening audience with him. From the word go he was targeting NZ in RWC 2019. It was the same in 2003 and both times it worked but maybe came a game too early.
I think the opening line of the vid summed it up well - he’s the master of the upset.
I wonder if he thought to himself (secretly) that he could afford to do that because England would have enough talent to beat whoever made it to the final from the other side of the draw without giving them as much focus as the All Blacks (certainly a year out I thought that might be his approach just looking at the way draw was likely to pan out)
