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    @Crucial I watched 2019 Bled 2 on the weekend and his cover defence pulling down backs suggests he's still got some speed.

    I like Coles because he's talented, skilful and that blend of forward that won't take a backward step.

    Players can come into the All Black environment to improve, but starting Tests should go to the best players. He's still clearly one of the top two in the country and come the second half of the year that remains the case, if some bloke with 22 SR caps since 2017 gets a guernsey ahead of him, I'll support a different team.

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    @mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    J Barrett is still shit. For every good thing he does, there is still something that looks park rugby to accompany it.

    B Barrett at 15, DMac in 23 is still most likely

    I'd level exactly the same criticism at DMac.

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    @No-Quarter of course you would

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    @mariner4life he's benefited from not playing at that RWC so never had the chance to do a "hold my beer" to Jordie after his brainfarts.

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    @mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @No-Quarter of course you would

    DMac's intercept passes don't cease to exist because you don't want to remember them.

    They are actually pretty similar with their error rates.

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    @nzzp said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.

    Anyone who can knock over 63 m penalties shuold be somewhere in the squad. Just opens up so much of the field to score points in

    Mainly for the opposition if that player is Jmac.

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    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    His form this year has been excellent ... in the one game he played.

    Not sure how Lam has usurped him.

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    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    His form this year has been excellent ... in the one game he played.

    Not sure how Lam has usurped him.

    I thought it was a joke team.

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    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

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    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

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    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

    You don't agree that Mounga's diminutive size is a potential (or, rather, actual) liability defending the 10 channel?

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    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

    You don't agree that Mounga's diminutive size is a potential (or, rather, actual) liability defending the 10 channel?

    Anyone watch the traffic through his channel at the RWC? A great player, but defensively closer to Mehrtens...

    If Mounga starts, Cane has to be on the side of the scrum.

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    @antipodean said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

    You don't agree that Mounga's diminutive size is a potential (or, rather, actual) liability defending the 10 channel?

    Anyone watch the traffic through his channel at the RWC? A great player, but defensively closer to Mehrtens...

    If Mounga starts, Cane has to be on the side of the scrum.

    I think we all noticed it, particularly when they managed to get him in his hiding place defending the wide channel

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    Only 3 rounds of SR so far, so it is hard to determine what will be the AB team for the June - July series. But these players could be bolters : Taukeiaho, IWL, Boshier, Sotutu (or MMT or both) and Havili. I might be wrong but I don't see Will Jordan nor Leicester Fainganuuku making the squad. Too early for them I fear and because there are already a lot of options for the back three.

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    @cgrant mostly agree, although not sure I'd consider an AB as a bolter.

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    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @antipodean said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

    You don't agree that Mounga's diminutive size is a potential (or, rather, actual) liability defending the 10 channel?

    Anyone watch the traffic through his channel at the RWC? A great player, but defensively closer to Mehrtens...

    If Mounga starts, Cane has to be on the side of the scrum.

    I think we all noticed it, particularly when they managed to get him in his hiding place defending the wide channel

    Watching Cruden come back and defend well has been really interesting, as he wasn't a patch on Carter.

    We were just so lucky for a very long time.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by sparky
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    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    Reiko Ioane was a disappointing dud in the RWC. His form was fine in his one game this year. Needs more of the same.

    I'm disappointed with Braydon Ennor defensive work so far this season. Could make the ABs starting line up if he make dominant tackles on a regular basis. If he remains fit, I am sure Laumape will get lots of game time for the ABs in 2020.

    Backs aren't the issue. Lots of very good players. Lock and Back Row is where the cupboard looks thin.

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    @sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    Reiko Ioane was a disappointing dud in the RWC. His form was fine in his one game this year. Needs more of the same.

    Ioane only played v Canada and less than 20 minutes vs Namibia. Don't remember how he was in the Canada game but it was 63-0 so essentially meaningless and he scored a try. Can't help but feel that Hansen putting his faith in Bridge and Reece backfired in the semi.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @sparky I don't see the need for Ennor at centre in the AB's, Goodhue should be the incumbent. I'd be very interested to see him on the right wing however, especially with a resurgent Ioane on the other side.

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    @mofitzy_ Ben Smith should have started against England.

    Reiko Ioane was very poor in both RWC appearance. Carrying injury?

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