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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @sparky A lot of midget backs in that team!

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    @sparky SW will be back after the TL, so in May. Plenty of time.

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    @Chris-B Jordie makes up for it. Ben Lam might make the ABs as the power winger in 2020.

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    I'm thinking Bosh to initially take Todd's backup place in the squad.
    What we desperately missed was hard tackling/clearing players in 6 and 8. Read had lost his edge and we didn't have a thumping 6.
    If we go Cane and Ardie as interchanging 7/8s depending on field position we need that thumping 6 even more.

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    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

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    Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
    He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
    If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.

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    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
    He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
    If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.

    I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.

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    @Nepia said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
    He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
    If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.

    I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.

    Trouble with Coles is that if the game, or his form, isn't going well he reverts to being a liability discipline wise. He was bloody lucky on the weekend to stay on the field after that cheap shot shoulder into a player on the ground. If he had connected with the head (which was quite possible as he had no control) he would have seen red.
    He has lost the acceleration that made him so dangerous if a break came his way and I don't see him lasting the full cycle anyway.

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    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Nepia said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Maybe one for the kneejerk reaction thread but maybe it is time for Coles to take a step back.
    He is still mobile and dynamic but is relying more on his niggly tendencies than being a dominant defender.
    If this is a year of introducing talent then maybe the likes of Samisoni Taukei’aho will get a look in.

    I disagree, I don't think we played him enough in the RWC, especially as Taylor wasn't up to his usual standards.

    Trouble with Coles is that if the game, or his form, isn't going well he reverts to being a liability discipline wise. He was bloody lucky on the weekend to stay on the field after that cheap shot shoulder into a player on the ground. If he had connected with the head (which was quite possible as he had no control) he would have seen red.
    He has lost the acceleration that made him so dangerous if a break came his way and I don't see him lasting the full cycle anyway.

    I don't care about the cycle TBH, as long as he's still in our two best all round hookers that's good enough for me ... but he does need to rein in his red mist, needs a stern talking to from Fozzie, but hey a Barrett got a red card last year for the red mist and his place seems pretty safe. 😉

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    @Crucial I watched 2019 Bled 2 on the weekend and his cover defence pulling down backs suggests he's still got some speed.

    I like Coles because he's talented, skilful and that blend of forward that won't take a backward step.

    Players can come into the All Black environment to improve, but starting Tests should go to the best players. He's still clearly one of the top two in the country and come the second half of the year that remains the case, if some bloke with 22 SR caps since 2017 gets a guernsey ahead of him, I'll support a different team.

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    @mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    J Barrett is still shit. For every good thing he does, there is still something that looks park rugby to accompany it.

    B Barrett at 15, DMac in 23 is still most likely

    I'd level exactly the same criticism at DMac.

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    @No-Quarter of course you would

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    @mariner4life he's benefited from not playing at that RWC so never had the chance to do a "hold my beer" to Jordie after his brainfarts.

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    @mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @No-Quarter of course you would

    DMac's intercept passes don't cease to exist because you don't want to remember them.

    They are actually pretty similar with their error rates.

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    @nzzp said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    FFS anyone that can't by now see J Barrett is a Muppet outside back, clearly can't be watching with the screen on. He needs to move somewhere he can play 12 because he's a fuck up elsewhere.

    Anyone who can knock over 63 m penalties shuold be somewhere in the squad. Just opens up so much of the field to score points in

    Mainly for the opposition if that player is Jmac.

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    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    His form this year has been excellent ... in the one game he played.

    Not sure how Lam has usurped him.

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    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky Those four little guys are rarely going to make dominant tackles - more than a quarter of the team.

    Poor old Reiko getting no love? 🙂

    His form this year has been excellent ... in the one game he played.

    Not sure how Lam has usurped him.

    I thought it was a joke team.

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    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

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    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

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    @shark said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:

    @voodoo I dunno I'm with you. Love to watch him and he can be dynamite. But FOster in his interviews (correctly) pointing out ABs have often been physically dominated, says to me tall lock like Fullbacks not smallhalfback like fullbacks. Then again SA have used their small backs to good effect.

    Fixing our physicality with a big fullback is akin to picking our spin bowler based on batting ability.

    It's ignoring the actual issue.

    (Having said that, I'd like to see at least one big powerful winger - Rieko.)

    Am a fan of DMac, and can see him and BB interchanging in that role. Wouldn't surprise to see BB at 10 and DMac 15 in some games.

    Yes, having a monster at FB is not going to all of the sudden make our blindside flankers and locks more physical. Mounga aside, I think we've got a pretty decent balance between agility, skill and physicality in our backline.

    Lol.

    You don't agree that Mounga's diminutive size is a potential (or, rather, actual) liability defending the 10 channel?

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