Possible All Blacks 2020
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@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Cane would be favourite to be captain I would assume.
Makes sense given he's the first forward picked.
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@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Am glad we can still argue over All Black selection and expose obvious provincial biases even in these times.
I would select Cane over Savea who is from the Canes which is the franchise that my province is part of. See we're not all biased.
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@sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
I really can't see the Wales and Scotland tour going ahead.
There's a long way to go yet. Hopefully they'll apply soap to all this hand-wringing and it will solve itself.
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@Steven-Harris said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bovidae can recall Kieran Reads tackle on Rocky Elsom in the 2011 RWC semi final was an absolute beauty ,surprised Elsom still got up.
The tackle on McCabe was near halfway on the ASB stand side of the field in the 1st half.
I had a really good view of the Kaino tackle on Ioane too.
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@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Cane would be favourite to be captain I would assume.
It's safe to say the captain will be called Sam.
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If the bullshit line I was fed that the only reason Sam Whitelock lashed out in the semi was because of all the rookies around him, is even remotely true, then there is no way he can be captain.
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
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@mariner4life Foster has already decided on his captain, whoever that is. I wouldn't pick Whitelock either but I can't see anyone other than Cane or him being the choice. No point selecting a player who will be replaced during the game (e.g. front row, halfback).
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@Bovidae said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life Foster has already decided on his captain, whoever that is. I wouldn't pick Whitelock either but I can't see anyone other than Cane or him being the choice. No point selecting a player who will be replaced during the game (e.g. front row, halfback).
Can you select a reserve as your captain? Scott Barrett for captain!
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@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
It's pretty fucking early to be going back to the Chiefs region for a coach - let alone a Waikato one!
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@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
If the bullshit line I was fed that the only reason Sam Whitelock lashed out in the semi was because of all the rookies around him, is even remotely true, then there is no way he can be captain.
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
I don't care what the reason for his lashing out was - it was simply unacceptable in the circumstances. I would be happy for him to call the line outs and nothing more.
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@voodoo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@junior I think we all shared that view in the immediate aftermath. It was a terrible mistake
But history is littered with players that have made a small number of mistakes then gone on to be inspirational leaders.
Do we not owe him another chance?
Nah fuck 'im
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Thtat McCaw guy did that retarded leg trip v Argentina in a RWC, he seemed a handy leader at that point.
What Whitelock did was dumb as a dumb thing, that didnt cost us the match, nor should it cost him the chance to lead us, if he is the one deemed to be our future leader
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@taniwharugby said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
What Whitelock did was dumb as a dumb thing, that didnt cost us the match, nor should it cost him the chance to lead us, if he is the one deemed to be our future leader
nope, cost an opportunity to get back into the game. Costs him some real added scrutiny on his leadership ability.
Makes it clear quite how good a leader the GOAT turned into - just domnated the team mentally for years
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@nzzp wasnt that YC on McCaw in 2015, which was pretty much when he was at his peak leadership?
As an aside, I think Cane would be a better bet to lead, just saying I dont think that moment should define his (Whitelock) potential leadership.
