All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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@antipodean said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
If Mils gets rightly awarded that try in the semi, then we break the Aussies backs and march into the final as odds on favourites. Then he gets remembered very differently.
Where his eight man scrum still can't push six poms backwards..?
Don't start me on the inadequacies of the officials in that case.
So'oialo gained a PT. Not awarded. And the bullshit legend of the 6 man scrum was born.
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@Catogrande said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@Bovidae said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@antipodean said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
If Mils gets rightly awarded that try in the semi, then we break the Aussies backs and march into the final as odds on favourites. Then he gets remembered very differently.
Where his eight man scrum still can't push six poms backwards..?
Maybe Rodders gets awarded the try this time.
And maybe Dougie gets called for offside for once. 😳
Why would he be if he wasn't? ...
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@KiwiMurph said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
He said Eddie Jones had been almost exclusively planning for the RWC semi final game 03 v ABs since the Bledisloe that year.
Yeah, it's always good to see Eddie getting his priorities right - beating the AB's is far more important than winning the RWC.
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@mariner4life said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
John Mitchell gets an awful lot of crap for a bloke that won two out of two Tri-Nations, won back the bledisloe (after how many years?) Coached a team that put 50 past Aus and SA away in consecutive weeks.
I'm not saying he was a great coach, but he's far from terrible. His assistant coaching results would point to that. John's problem appears to be his complete inability to get along with people when he is in charge.
I put those results more down to a red-hot, "un-seen" backline with one of the most exciting, skilful and unpredictable players in the world at that time in career-best form. Well, that and Deans
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@Donsteppa said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
At the time we looked like we were strongly turning the corner from the dross of 98 - 01. But with the benefit of hindsight, Mitchell's All Blacks still had an underpowered scrum, and the defence was as leaky as the Team NZ boat of the same year. Letting in 37 points against Wales probably wasn't a good sign of a tournament winning team.
Fitness was much better though, and he did a bloody good job with the Chiefs.
Fuck me that parallels between that team and the one that got knocked out the RWC by England in 2019 are eery... (save that one was an improvement on what had come before and the other a significant downgrade).
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@MajorRage said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@taniwharugby Can't agree with that. Yes, a turning point, but the Aussies rumbled us all day with their game plan.
Well, we just don't know do we? I mean, what's to say that Aus don't completely bottle it after going down to an early try? There's no doubt that their and the crowd's confidence grew enormously after the Mortlock try. I was there - you could feel it (and, conversely, you could see the AB energy levels begin to dip).
Scoring early was a massive moment for them. As was the Tuilagi try last year.
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@antipodean said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Mitchell was clearly out coached for that semi-final. Eddie worked out the secret was to not give the All Blacks counter-attack ball. Every kick went into the grandstand.
Yes and then they put huge pressure on every line out. Again, parallels with 2019 are quite staggering.
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@junior said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@mariner4life said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
John Mitchell gets an awful lot of crap for a bloke that won two out of two Tri-Nations, won back the bledisloe (after how many years?) Coached a team that put 50 past Aus and SA away in consecutive weeks.
I'm not saying he was a great coach, but he's far from terrible. His assistant coaching results would point to that. John's problem appears to be his complete inability to get along with people when he is in charge.
I put those results more down to a red-hot, "un-seen" backline with one of the most exciting, skilful and unpredictable players in the world at that time in career-best form. Well, that and Deans
Don’t forget they really just adopted Henry’s Blues tactics ... in the semi they just forgot to tell the forwards to play their role.
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@MajorRage said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@KiwiMurph said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@antipodean said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Mitchell was clearly out coached for that semi-final. Eddie worked out the secret was to not give the All Blacks counter-attack ball. Every kick went into the grandstand.
I heard Mortlock speak about it at a function. He said Eddie Jones had been almost exclusively planning for the RWC semi final game 03 v ABs since the Bledisloe that year.
Yep, he did the same last year too. The performance in the final was telling.
Yeah it's a bit of a feature of his international coaching career - some all-time against-the-odds victories at RWCs that ultimately led to nothing
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@African-Monkey said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@taniwharugby Every time I think about that game I think about that moment. It obviousy got overshadowed by the intercept try but I feel that moment changed the game.
I met Mils at a function last year and he's still convinced that it was a try
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@Nepia said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@junior said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@mariner4life said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
John Mitchell gets an awful lot of crap for a bloke that won two out of two Tri-Nations, won back the bledisloe (after how many years?) Coached a team that put 50 past Aus and SA away in consecutive weeks.
I'm not saying he was a great coach, but he's far from terrible. His assistant coaching results would point to that. John's problem appears to be his complete inability to get along with people when he is in charge.
I put those results more down to a red-hot, "un-seen" backline with one of the most exciting, skilful and unpredictable players in the world at that time in career-best form. Well, that and Deans
Don’t forget they really just adopted Henry’s Blues tactics ... in the semi they just forgot to tell the forwards to play their role.
They also forgot to tell the midfield to tackle
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I'll put this here
Analysis: The next generation All Black backline to unlock the Springboks with Super Rugby's latest trend
The All Blacks have no shortage of young backs to build such an attack, with the likes of Jordie Barrett and Braydon Ennor bringing ideal skills.
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Good to see Jordie featuring heavily in the picture there. That should trigger a few posters.
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@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Good to see Jordie featuring heavily in the picture there. That should trigger a few posters.
Jordie and Ennor! I'm triggered as fuck ... I saw the NPC.
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@Nepia said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Good to see Jordie featuring heavily in the picture there. That should trigger a few posters.
Jordie and Ennor! I'm triggered as fuck ... I saw the NPC.
I'm triggered by an article trying to predict confidently the players that will win a test tournament in 3 years using backline moves designed to beat Super rugby defenses in 2020. Because, as we all know, Super rugby definitely equals Test Rugby. And knockout games are often won by sexy backline moves.
Really fucking solid stuff.
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@mariner4life said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@Nepia said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Good to see Jordie featuring heavily in the picture there. That should trigger a few posters.
Jordie and Ennor! I'm triggered as fuck ... I saw the NPC.
I'm triggered by an article trying to predict confidently the players that will win a test tournament in 3 years using backline moves designed to beat Super rugby defenses in 2020. Because, as we all know, Super rugby definitely equals Test Rugby. And knockout games are often won by sexy backline moves.
Really fucking solid stuff.
You read the article?
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@Nepia said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@mariner4life said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@Nepia said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Good to see Jordie featuring heavily in the picture there. That should trigger a few posters.
Jordie and Ennor! I'm triggered as fuck ... I saw the NPC.
I'm triggered by an article trying to predict confidently the players that will win a test tournament in 3 years using backline moves designed to beat Super rugby defenses in 2020. Because, as we all know, Super rugby definitely equals Test Rugby. And knockout games are often won by sexy backline moves.
Really fucking solid stuff.
You read the article?
actually i did. There are a lot of ads gifs which made it super hard to read.
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The analysis of the article is okay (backline patterns etc), but it’s for the here and now. There are pretty pointless references to the next World Cup because it’s so far off and there’s so alot of test rugby to get through (we hope!)
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@mariner4life thought the analysis wasnt that great, the one where he says Goodhue didnt beat Kolbe and unload to an unmarked BB, looking at the pic, even if he did break the tackle from Kolbe, the SA 6 was there anyway, unless he is thinking having Jordie or Ennor there would have made Kolbe disappear?
