Hansen
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@sparky I very much doubt anyone in NZ rugby would have made much difference today, that England forward pack was in a different league. It feels like an ambush, keeping their powder dry
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@shark think we'll be fine at 8 with Savea being backed up by the various young guns shining through in super rugby.
So our best openside flanker and essentially the incumbent 6 now needs to switch to 8? No thanks.
Yeah true not like Savea gets much time at 8, I mean the ABs only shifted our best 8 in the last decade so Savea could run off the scrum. Cane is our best 7.
Experience and mana doesn't count for much when you can't keep up with play so just give away penalties instead.
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@junior yeah it was so weird and so frustrating. Like they were deliberately ignoring the space they were making in order to set something up later. That was the only way I could figure for why they were cutting back in, deliberately running down the sideline with no out. But no, guess they just were bottling it.
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@Bones so you'd have Savea play 6 and 8? Because we have issues at both spots. I'd play him at 7 with Cane off the bench. He's serviceable at 6 and 8 but not a long term answer in either position.
I'd go with big bopper 6, probably Frizell. Ardie and Cane.
Start to develop someone like Benn-Nicholas. Etc.
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@BerniesCorner said in Hansen:
@sparky I very much doubt anyone in NZ rugby would have made much difference today, that England forward pack was in a different league. It feels like an ambush, keeping their powder dry
I think that Richie McCaw at the top of his game would have made a difference. We would have been more competitive at the breakdown. We wouldn't have given away 18 turnovers. He would have rallied and focused his troops in the last 15 minutes.
Never saw the pack overrun as it was last night when the GOAT was on the park.
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Well mostly been said above. Absolutely gutted.
Can only hope for a cleanout and a better showing in 2020.
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Bridge was poor. Its a bit pointless arguing who was more poor. And really Bridge and Reece only made the starting team because of who they play for
Coaches naturally have preferences for the team they support. But a good coach has the maturity to put his preferences to one side and pick the best team. They must do this and also make it seem as they doing this otherwise its likely to create a strange atmosphere in the team. When Hansen picked Barrett over Cane it was obvious what was going on. Then what followed was a dreadful performance
Hansen failed the maturity test. As Wylie, Hart and Deans did before him. Henry and Smith didn't.
The next coach can't be Robertson. He's not ready yet. Go overseas and coach for a few years to prove he can coach outside the safe Crusaders environment. I just like the look of Joseph and Brown. Greta combination and Joseph is a perfect front person
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Wow, what a dirty asterisk next to one of the greatest coaching reigns ever.
There'll be " monkey brain" condemnation and slagging for sure, but Shag has been an outstanding coach in many different ways and has been extremely valuable to NZ rugby.
Poor ol fozzie sees his whole career path get bulldozed in the space of 80 minutes.
New broom and let's go
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Used to be a huge fan of Hansen but the non selection of Cane, dropping BFA for a flaky asf Jordie and the decision to pick weak reserve scrummaging props have seriously made him look like an amateur. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this and in hindsight should have bowed out at the end of 2017 as originally planned.
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Used to be a huge fan of Hansen but the non selection of Cane, dropping BFA for a flaky asf Jordie and the decision to pick weak reserve scrummaging props have seriously made him look like an amateur. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this and in hindsight should have bowed out at the end of 2017 as originally planned.
To be replaced by who though?? Like who was actually available and proven in 2017?? All the good coaches were contracted elsewhere, you’d have basically been left with foster.
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@Billy-Tell said in Hansen:
Used to be a huge fan of Hansen but the non selection of Cane, dropping BFA for a flaky asf Jordie and the decision to pick weak reserve scrummaging props have seriously made him look like an amateur. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this and in hindsight should have bowed out at the end of 2017 as originally planned.
To be replaced by who though?? Like who was actually available and proven in 2017?? All the good coaches were contracted elsewhere, you’d have basically been left with foster.
I was referring more to Hansen's legacy and not what his departure would have done to the ABs. Granted Foster would have been even worse in all likelihood but Hansen would have gone down as arguably our best ever coach if he had stepped down in 2017.
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Eddie Jones was right when he said Hansen always thought about what was best for the game.
I think we went too far in recent times trying to be loved and always trying to project a positive image at all times. In the end the worse thing you say about a Rugby player is that they are nice. Time for the All Blacks to be more ruthless and nasty.
