RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
Definitely not. We just beat a pretty shitty Ireland (i.e. played how we usually play).
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
Definitely not. We just beat a pretty shitty Ireland (i.e. played how we usually play).
Would you say our accuracy was better or worse in the semi final?
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
Definitely not. We just beat a pretty shitty Ireland (i.e. played how we usually play).
Would you say our accuracy was better or worse in the semi final?
Better.
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
We played well vs Ireland but couldn't overcome the drop off in performance like we did in the 2015 semi final vs SA
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@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
They spent the week working hard on their game; analysing their opponent; and not taking anything for granted based on results up to that point.
The exact opposite of Japan 07
Also, it's facile to claim the English or NZ didn't either. They do - but it's human nature to relax a bit after a big effort; climbing the mountain again so soon is damn hard. It's not one performance that defines you, it's week in, week out effort. McCaw seemed to be the master at this from the outside, just never let down his standards.
Also, the NZ Eng game - we got thrashed by 7 points. Just didn't ever grab our half chances at any stage, and were behind physically. If you do that, you're scuppered
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattetimg) reflection.
We were soundly beaten, no doubt. Even our try after half time was against the run of play
England played their grand final against us. We played ours against Ireland.
We played well vs Ireland but couldn't overcome the drop off in performance like we did in the 2015 semi final vs SA
We were able to play a tweaked game plan against an Irish team which were not at home in the (above zero) conditions.
Poms were comfortable in conditions and had worked out excellent counters to our Plan A and caught us napping at start to snare 7 quick points.
I felt we were fairly rattled. But that pass from BBBR goes to hand and at 7 all the momentum's all with us.
And in second half we had our chances and fluffed them.
If anything the problem was AB team believed its own PR rather than expecting to have to grind things out.
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattering ) reflection.
When did you last rewatch it? It's been ages for me, so from memory we were pants executing, but England struggled to break us down, and our defence kept us in the game. Despite playing poorly, we were in it with 20 or so to, and could easily have burgled it. Sam Whitelock's shove on the eminently shovable Farrell was a key point; turned an offensive penalty and the chance to go deep into another defensive shift.
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@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattering ) reflection.
When did you last rewatch it? It's been ages for me, so from memory we were pants executing, but England struggled to break us down, and our defence kept us in the game. Despite playing poorly, we were in it with 20 or so to, and could easily have burgled it. Sam Whitelock's shove on the eminently shovable Farrell was a key point; turned an offensive penalty and the chance to go deep into another defensive shift.
Eddie's most cunning tactic was Farrell's face.
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@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattering ) reflection.
When did you last rewatch it? It's been ages for me, so from memory we were pants executing, but England struggled to break us down, and our defence kept us in the game. Despite playing poorly, we were in it with 20 or so to, and could easily have burgled it. Sam Whitelock's shove on the eminently shovable Farrell was a key point; turned an offensive penalty and the chance to go deep into another defensive shift.
Rewatch?
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattering ) reflection.
When did you last rewatch it? It's been ages for me, so from memory we were pants executing, but England struggled to break us down, and our defence kept us in the game. Despite playing poorly, we were in it with 20 or so to, and could easily have burgled it. Sam Whitelock's shove on the eminently shovable Farrell was a key point; turned an offensive penalty and the chance to go deep into another defensive shift.
Rewatch?
pendant.
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@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
I'm the biggest fanboi for NZ ever. But by crikey 7 points was flattering. 20 points would have been a more accurate (but probably still flattering ) reflection.
When did you last rewatch it? It's been ages for me, so from memory we were pants executing, but England struggled to break us down, and our defence kept us in the game. Despite playing poorly, we were in it with 20 or so to, and could easily have burgled it. Sam Whitelock's shove on the eminently shovable Farrell was a key point; turned an offensive penalty and the chance to go deep into another defensive shift.
Rewatch?
pendant.
Watching it once was more than enough. Not putting myself through that again...
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