RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....
You don't worry about drop goals, until you do...
Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.
Indeed. But I do recall plenty of discussion pre 07 RWC about us having proponents of the drop goal, especially after the euphoria of JW and 2003.
Then the drum beating got louder heading into 2011...
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
France adapted better to the Ref than we did.
France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.
McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.
yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
who else should have been captain in that team though?Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.
The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?
Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.
Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....
Would his captain have let him kick a drop goal?
Would 3 points have won us the game if we didn't have our best attacking player on the field?
Would he have missed frequently like Mehrts did in 1995?The player on the field didn't matter, it was the decision not to set for one that was the issue.
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@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.
I reckon Jordie's selection betrays some concern about Reece's ability under the high ball. With JB on the bench, they can defuse the aerial threat, but still maintain some of the dangerous attacking ability (which they will lose a lot of with BFA's current form). If JB needs to come and rescue Reece, I can see BFA playing a semi and final (should we make it that far)
There has always been, and still remains, more chance of the ABs winning a Test Match with BFA in the starting XV (23) than being on the pine.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Someone said they thought it was a bit small?
Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.
As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.
Start saving now.
The craic's not free.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Someone said they thought it was a bit small?
Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.
As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.
It would be a disaster - we gave them the headquarters for World Rugby and look what's happened to the game!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.
Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.
Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.
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@No-Quarter realising that the ref was only blowing one way was adapting, no?
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@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.
We're Kiwis. We do not give credit...
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.
Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.
Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.
I’ve never watched that game again , although seen the tries in highlights ,
Serious question because I can’t remember, Did he penalise us in the second half ?
I was under the impression he just put the whistle away in general under pressure , but it affected us more because we had all the ball .
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@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!
Bring it on!!
Well part of Ireland (15%) is part of the UK. It’s an easy mistake to make since most people don’t realise that Ireland is a separate sovereign state, even Ireland is the name of the rugby team that represents Ireland and Northern Ireland as that is what it was called when they first played as Ireland, before it was split into Northern Ireland and Ireland. It’s a bit like New Zealand is part of Australia (big island, little island) which means I suppose that New Zealand is very like Ireland - small, speak funny, and poke fun at the British occasionally, and have a Queen as their head of state....
Hope that clears things up.
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@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.
We're Kiwis. We do not give credit...
Some people never learn, tsk, tsk.
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@Machpants And all of them, except NI, hate the English
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Machpants And all of them, except NI, hate the English
1/2 the NI do, too!
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@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.
The thing is, that wasn't a very good French team. It didn't play particularly well before that game, nor after.
That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.
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