RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:I enjoy seeing clowns like that thrashwanking about refs favouring us .
The comments on the BBC website are a real hoot. Still banging on about Umaga & O'Cudda Doided.
But the winner has to be the clown who tells us the "New Zealand Rugby Team did a long Harka to intimidate Garces".
Really? Brilliant!
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
I remember a similar thing when England toured just after the 03 WC , all the talk was about their big monster pack ,
We were bigger man for man in every position except kevvie at hooker.
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@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Toddy said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@NTA What's your call NTA? Penalty only?
Reckon @NTA thinks Mo'unga should have been Red Carded for holding on.
Nah, he's not a Barrett
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
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@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
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@KiwiPie said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
That's a different issue.
I wasn't sure. Not do clear. He would be put onside once a ball carrier runs 5m with the ball in hand.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
All weights, not enough speed work
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Of course also extended the length of time the ball was in play and you could see that starting to drain legs. Cue traditional Bok counter-tactic of regular injury breaks and taking 2 hours to form a lineout.
As much as Scott Barrett had a very good spell at flanker, I thought ABs didn't control breakdown as effectively without Cane on the field in second half, and that made it closer.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Mr Dry Powder says hi.
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@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Saying a ref favours the ABs is pretty disrespectful to all of the professional refs. For starters that Barnes game and the Lions non offside penalty are two howlers that cost us big time.
Tbh I think it’s swings and roundabouts, If I gave a bigger fuck I would go through the game and highlight the poor calls against the ABs. From what I remember the penalty against Whitelock for interfering in the lineout was a shocker, in replay he makes an effort to avoid the bok lock.
I think the penalty was against Patty T who took a lifter out. But you never know with Garces.
One non-call that pissed me off was a high tackle on Ardie where the Bok player had him in a headlock.
Just watching the highlights on Fox.
Definitely got the impression Faeces signalled it against Sam.
And there was absolutely no contact initiated by the ABs. Pat T was lifting in front of SW and the Boks dropped their jumper on him.
Back to being a bullshit decision.
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@KiwiPie said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
On replay I reckon we had gone forward enough that he had actually got behind the line of the hindmost foot.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Mr Dry Powder says hi.
Great how we just turn the jets on for 20 minutes or so, just to give the opposition a taste of the powder, then put it away again
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@taniwharugby bang on. French refs are like the weather and the bounce of the ball: if you lose cause they didn’t go your way, you weren’t good enough.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Like the way the ref let the game flow.
Next step, no ref at all.
Pretty much what you get with Garces, with some random interruptions.
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@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:The try to the bok 7 was fairly inevitable, we were committing one player to the ruck and then none for two in a row and then he scored.
Yeah, basically Scott Barrett moved exactly from that spot to a position outside Smith just before PSDT picked up the ball.
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@Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Damo I wondered if the ALB tackle/ruck redefines an offside line making the interceptor a lazy runner, as he was coming back from the kolbe knock on.
Dunno, but it looked wrong
It looked wrong sure.
However a player can be put onside after a ruck by retreating to the line of the ruck, OR by a ball carrier running 5m with the ball. I didn't see it close enough to definitely say neither of those things happened.
