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    @Machpants Maybe not in terms of the overall program but they now have a team at the top that is better supported then under other regimes. Many of the last 6-8 years result you could put down to political interference when comparing to this team. They now accept players playing overseas have ignored the quota system to a degree and have a game devised by the coaches that suits them.

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    At least we kept our powder dry...

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    Heres my summary.

    Draw a fair result. That game won't live long in the memory.
    BB was massive tonight, probably the reason we didn't win and yet didn't lose (missed two penalties, was a handful and his pace set up Goodhues try)
    We've got two good 9's - TJP perfect to start in this game, ASmith perfect to up tempo - horses for courses there.
    Offside defence is not rush defence - holy hell, what were the touchies looking at because the Saffas were just way ahead of things all night.
    Welcome back Dane Coles - his spark was super important.
    Zero midfield impact until ALB came on - make of that what you will.
    Rieko just needs a game vs an easy beat and he'll get a sniff of it again.
    Happy to see the Bo'unga combo again - I think it will work better than the Beauden-McKenzie one.

    Not much else to state...I don't think we're 1991 bad, and a lot of those guys still played the 1995 one too, and we weren't expected to do much then.

    Cane and Savea have to come back in. If Read is to stay, hes going to have to go to 6.
    Pieces for a good 24-25 players are there, but we need to keep this team on the park.
    after Coles & Taylor
    after Whitelock, Retallick, SBarrett
    after TJP, Aaron Smith
    after Cane, Ardie,
    after Richie & Beauden
    after ALB & Goodhue its a big drop to the next hooker, lock, halfback, first-five, midfield

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    @westcoastie said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    Heres my summary.

    Draw a fair result. That game won't live long in the memory.
    BB was massive tonight, probably the reason we didn't win and yet didn't lose (missed two penalties, was a handful and his pace set up Goodhues try)
    We've got two good 9's - TJP perfect to start in this game, ASmith perfect to up tempo - horses for courses there.
    Offside defence is not rush defence - holy hell, what were the touchies looking at because the Saffas were just way ahead of things all night.
    Welcome back Dane Coles - his spark was super important.
    Zero midfield impact until ALB came on - make of that what you will.
    Rieko just needs a game vs an easy beat and he'll get a sniff of it again.
    Happy to see the Bo'unga combo again - I think it will work better than the Beauden-McKenzie one.

    Not much else to state...I don't think we're 1991 bad, and a lot of those guys still played the 1995 one too, and we weren't expected to do much then.

    Cane and Savea have to come back in. If Read is to stay, hes going to have to go to 6.
    Pieces for a good 24-25 players are there, but we need to keep this team on the park.
    after Coles & Taylor
    after Whitelock, Retallick, SBarrett
    after TJP, Aaron Smith
    after Cane, Ardie,
    after Richie & Beauden
    after ALB & Goodhue its a big drop to the next hooker, lock, halfback, first-five, midfield

    Is this really an option ? he hasn't played there for donkeys years.

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    @akan004 we're lucky SBarrett was immense in super rugby. 12 months ago I would've agreed.

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    @westcoastie after ALB, Goodhue & Crotty .. etc

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    @Stargazer whats Crottys injury at the moment?

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    @Kirwan When he started playing deeper. Fosters idiotic plan of playing flat and trying to offload against the rush defense was what led to the errors in the first half.

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    @westcoastie A few weeks to go; broken thumb. He's training with the ABs as per normal, just like Scott Barrett.

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    @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Kirwan Yeah, and he got way more space in the second half, too, so it was a lot easier for him at 10 than for RM in the first half.

    Well instead of discussing A fantasy game of what may have happened, let’s look at what happened when Richie was under pressure. It wasn’t good, and IMO we don’t have time to get him ready in time.

    If Aussie are their useful poor selves then we’ll learn nothing about him either in those games.

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    @MN5 Savea is probably the form loosie in the world right now, maybe the best. He has to play. And Cane is just massive too. Reads not getting dropped. We have no 6, absolutely none. So its either Cane or Read to 6.

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    @MN5 Issue is not him at 8 or 6 in set-piece it is around park. Not powerful enough in the middle yet too slow now to be out wide. So you are playing him because he lifts in a lineout, has control at the back of the scrum and is Captain.

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    @westcoastie said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @akan004 we're lucky SBarrett was immense in super rugby. 12 months ago I would've agreed.

    Maybe so, but SW and SB are just two locks. Then what?

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    @Stargazer good. because SBW needs to go.

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    @Number-10 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

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    Fuck. That's his wc over imo. Broken arm would have been better.

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    Can World Rugby just sort out the refereeing. It's fucken abysmal. This game just showed it. How number 19 stayed on the field let alone not being penalised requires serious question. I mean what he did was far worse then Toupou last week. It's like they are agreeing that the broadcaster controls the TMO

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    @akan004 yes he’s maybe out for WC that’s big recovery time
    Tendon and muscle damage

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    @sparky said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    At least we kept our powder dry...

    While our munition stores are flooding.

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    Strange feeling, perhaps for the first time ever in my life, of being slightly pleased and relieved that the ABs didn't win.

    Even in World Cup year, I thought it was staggeringly disrespectful of Steve Hansen and Clown Foster not picking his first-choice 23 against a touring Springbok team. I hope the Old Foe never again face any sort of All Black B+ team when they visit New Zealand.

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