TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
I have a cat now and I will kick it.
Probably a fair reflection on the overall game. Should have won it though.
Controversial opinion. Ardie should be 8 instead of Read. Not going to happen obviously but he was very ordinary.
If Read makes the starting team, now it is as a 6. If not he can be the backup 8. Ardie is the star at the back of the scrum now.
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@98blueandgold said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Machpants Or other Teams have developed really professional programs and this is the new reality for NZ rugby?
I don't think SA have TBH, they're in a world of hurt. Ireland, yes, SA I dunno how they dragged themselves up from Albany levels of awful - you've gotta give Rassie credit tho
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@Machpants Maybe not in terms of the overall program but they now have a team at the top that is better supported then under other regimes. Many of the last 6-8 years result you could put down to political interference when comparing to this team. They now accept players playing overseas have ignored the quota system to a degree and have a game devised by the coaches that suits them.
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Heres my summary.
Draw a fair result. That game won't live long in the memory.
BB was massive tonight, probably the reason we didn't win and yet didn't lose (missed two penalties, was a handful and his pace set up Goodhues try)
We've got two good 9's - TJP perfect to start in this game, ASmith perfect to up tempo - horses for courses there.
Offside defence is not rush defence - holy hell, what were the touchies looking at because the Saffas were just way ahead of things all night.
Welcome back Dane Coles - his spark was super important.
Zero midfield impact until ALB came on - make of that what you will.
Rieko just needs a game vs an easy beat and he'll get a sniff of it again.
Happy to see the Bo'unga combo again - I think it will work better than the Beauden-McKenzie one.Not much else to state...I don't think we're 1991 bad, and a lot of those guys still played the 1995 one too, and we weren't expected to do much then.
Cane and Savea have to come back in. If Read is to stay, hes going to have to go to 6.
Pieces for a good 24-25 players are there, but we need to keep this team on the park.
after Coles & Taylor
after Whitelock, Retallick, SBarrett
after TJP, Aaron Smith
after Cane, Ardie,
after Richie & Beauden
after ALB & Goodhue its a big drop to the next hooker, lock, halfback, first-five, midfield -
@westcoastie said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Heres my summary.
Draw a fair result. That game won't live long in the memory.
BB was massive tonight, probably the reason we didn't win and yet didn't lose (missed two penalties, was a handful and his pace set up Goodhues try)
We've got two good 9's - TJP perfect to start in this game, ASmith perfect to up tempo - horses for courses there.
Offside defence is not rush defence - holy hell, what were the touchies looking at because the Saffas were just way ahead of things all night.
Welcome back Dane Coles - his spark was super important.
Zero midfield impact until ALB came on - make of that what you will.
Rieko just needs a game vs an easy beat and he'll get a sniff of it again.
Happy to see the Bo'unga combo again - I think it will work better than the Beauden-McKenzie one.Not much else to state...I don't think we're 1991 bad, and a lot of those guys still played the 1995 one too, and we weren't expected to do much then.
Cane and Savea have to come back in. If Read is to stay, hes going to have to go to 6.
Pieces for a good 24-25 players are there, but we need to keep this team on the park.
after Coles & Taylor
after Whitelock, Retallick, SBarrett
after TJP, Aaron Smith
after Cane, Ardie,
after Richie & Beauden
after ALB & Goodhue its a big drop to the next hooker, lock, halfback, first-five, midfieldIs this really an option ? he hasn't played there for donkeys years.
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@akan004 we're lucky SBarrett was immense in super rugby. 12 months ago I would've agreed.
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@westcoastie after ALB, Goodhue & Crotty .. etc
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@Stargazer whats Crottys injury at the moment?
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@westcoastie A few weeks to go; broken thumb. He's training with the ABs as per normal, just like Scott Barrett.
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@Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Kirwan Yeah, and he got way more space in the second half, too, so it was a lot easier for him at 10 than for RM in the first half.
Well instead of discussing A fantasy game of what may have happened, let’s look at what happened when Richie was under pressure. It wasn’t good, and IMO we don’t have time to get him ready in time.
If Aussie are their useful poor selves then we’ll learn nothing about him either in those games.
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@MN5 Issue is not him at 8 or 6 in set-piece it is around park. Not powerful enough in the middle yet too slow now to be out wide. So you are playing him because he lifts in a lineout, has control at the back of the scrum and is Captain.
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@westcoastie said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@akan004 we're lucky SBarrett was immense in super rugby. 12 months ago I would've agreed.
Maybe so, but SW and SB are just two locks. Then what?
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@Stargazer good. because SBW needs to go.
