CWC Final - Black Caps v England
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The problem with 2023 is that three teams who aren't a threat have just come into consideration. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan (if they are there) will be much better. I'm not saying Afghanistan will be a threat for the playoffs but I bet they win a game in India. England should still be good in four years. The Aussies and Saffas don't have good spinners lined up but are generally strong.
One problem with NZC is that we are under performing at recent u-19 world cups. That probably has to have some ramifications down the line.
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@shark said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
You're having a little tug on your own whizzer there if you seriously believe the Poms will give a second thought to the way they were awarded this WC. They won't give a flying fuck. It's in the record books, that's all that matters. And we'd feel exactly the same. At most they'll feel mildly sympathetic towards us but they'll feel completely justified in having taken this title, one way or another.
Yeah I walked that one back a little after a bit of reflection. The champagne tastes just the same either way and in a similar situation at the 2011 RWC walking away with the trophy and not screwing it up again would have been enough for most at the time.
But I still wouldn't be surprised if in the fullness of time there is a "yeah but" attached to it which I'm sure will shit them just a little from time to time. With the 1995 RWC example before, if we had held on 2 minutes and won a red card I wouldn't be sure that the guys could dine out on it the same way other teams have... but then again look at Fitzy and they lost.
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@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
No. There's too much of that on here already with instagram stalking, whining about Beaudie going, what injury has SBW got, friendlies, breakdancing coaches and "when is the team named?" bullshit. I for one am enjoying the brief hiatus.
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@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Not a fan of Stead coming out and saying a draw is something that could be considered. Fuck that, it's a world cup - just figure out a better way to award the winner.
To be honest - in a game like cricket - if you get a tie, which very rarely happens, I don't see what's wrong with just sharing the title.
In a game like soccer, I can see why you need a tiebreak.
But, if necessary - why not just come back the next day and play another match? If TV companies can't sort out to cover the replay then fuck 'em.
p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".
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@Chris-B said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".
Johnny Wilkinson deserves a knighthood - not so much for winning the final in 2003, but saving rugby from that drop-kick off about 30 seconds later...
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@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Not just yet.
Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.
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One further surprise in the final, the annual Wimbledon final out TV-rated the first England World Cup Final appearance since 1992. A consequence of "live international cricket returned to free-to-air television for the first time in 14 years" perhaps...
4.5 million Britons watch Cricket World Cup final on Channel 4
Viewing peaked for drama of super over but still lagged behind Wimbledon final
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@Donsteppa said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
One further surprise in the final, the annual Wimbledon final out TV-rated the first England World Cup Final appearance since 1992. A consequence of "live international cricket returned to free-to-air television for the first time in 14 years" perhaps...
4.5 million Britons watch Cricket World Cup final on Channel 4
Viewing peaked for drama of super over but still lagged behind Wimbledon final
I know I don't speak for a shitload of people but I seriously don't get the obsession with tennis. It's a dreary sport and, McEnroe aside, played by a bunch of folk completely devoid of any personality. Imagine if Roger Federer had to talk up a match the same way Tyson Fury does for a fight ?
The world ( sporting or otherwise ) boggles my mind sometimes.
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@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Not just yet.
Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.
Fair enough, that will still leave me three and a half years of gloating before we inevitably get dumped out in the first round next time.
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@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Fuck that, not everyone on the Fern actually lives for all things Rugby - Cricket is my first love and only AB Tests feature on my rugby interest. I care bugger all about domestic rugby for the most part but when something involves ODIs and Tests for Cricket - I'm in like Flynn.
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@Chris-B said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Not a fan of Stead coming out and saying a draw is something that could be considered. Fuck that, it's a world cup - just figure out a better way to award the winner.
To be honest - in a game like cricket - if you get a tie, which very rarely happens, I don't see what's wrong with just sharing the title.
In a game like soccer, I can see why you need a tiebreak.
But, if necessary - why not just come back the next day and play another match? If TV companies can't sort out to cover the replay then fuck 'em.
p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".
I feel like a part of the tradition of cricket is that two teams have a fair crack at each other and if at the end of the day neither team has won, you shake hands, call it a draw and have tea togethe.
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@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@No-Quarter said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Catogrande said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Not just yet.
Cheating pommy bastard, you're banned from commenting on cricket for at least 6 months.
Fair enough, that will still leave me three and a half years of gloating before we inevitably get dumped out in the first round next time.
What's the mood among English cricket fans? I imagine a fair bit of relief to finally get a WC... but in bizarre circumstances.
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@Chris-B said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@mofitzy_ said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Not a fan of Stead coming out and saying a draw is something that could be considered. Fuck that, it's a world cup - just figure out a better way to award the winner.
To be honest - in a game like cricket - if you get a tie, which very rarely happens, I don't see what's wrong with just sharing the title.
In a game like soccer, I can see why you need a tiebreak.
But, if necessary - why not just come back the next day and play another match? If TV companies can't sort out to cover the replay then fuck 'em.
p.s. rugby needs to sort something better out than the drop-kick-off, which was what supposedly happens last time I looked. Far rather share the title than indulge in "fucking foolishness".
Given they had a whole day in reserve, surely continuing playing cricket till they found a winner is better than an arbitrary rule or - God forbid- a draw. Remember the Lions fiasco? Maybe it's the North Island in me but I'm not a fan of sister kissing.
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@SynicBast said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Fuck that, not everyone on the Fern actually lives for all things Rugby - Cricket is my first love and only AB Tests feature on my rugby interest. I care bugger all about domestic rugby for the most part but when something involves ODIs and Tests for Cricket - I'm in like Flynn.
Careful admitting this. I constantly get ripped a new one on here for admitting I don't drop everything to watch a Super Game and the fact I can't recognise every single Hurricanes player on sight ( or know how to stalk them on instagram )
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@MN5 said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@SynicBast said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
@Frank said in CWC Final - Black Caps v England:
Can we talk about rugby please?
Fuck that, not everyone on the Fern actually lives for all things Rugby - Cricket is my first love and only AB Tests feature on my rugby interest. I care bugger all about domestic rugby for the most part but when something involves ODIs and Tests for Cricket - I'm in like Flynn.
Careful admitting this. I constantly get ripped a new one on here for admitting I don't drop everything to watch a Super Game and the fact I can't recognise every single Hurricanes player on sight ( or know how to stalk them on instagram
I'm older than most here and nothing a keyboard warrior can say here can compare to Bosnia, Belfast or Bougainville
