CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England
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@Mokey said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@Donsteppa I'm getting flashbacks to a certain event that didn't happen in 2007.
“Just a quick holiday with the WAGS in the south of France”...
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@Bovidae said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I'd be happy with Guptill c2015 WC at the moment.
lets face it, 1 guy, no matter how good, is going to help.
If you compare our XI now to our XI in 2015, is there an upgrade anywhere? Maybe Ferguson as the 3rd seamer? Kane might be a bit better now? Other than that? Who would you put from now in to 2015 to help win that final? But ask that question the other way...
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@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@Bovidae said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I'd be happy with Guptill c2015 WC at the moment.
lets face it, 1 guy, no matter how good, is going to help.
If you compare our XI now to our XI in 2015, is there an upgrade anywhere? Maybe Ferguson as the 3rd seamer? Kane might be a bit better now? Other than that? Who would you put from now in to 2015 to help win that final? But ask that question the other way...
I'd take 2019 Kane and Taylor over the 2015 versions. Remember that Taylor was struggling with that eye problem and wasn't full force.
I'd also take either of our keeping options over Luke Ronchi and 2019 Boult too. Remember that 2015 was Boult's breakthrough into the ODI side (he had a similar rep prior to then that he couldn't bowl at the death).
By the same measure, who would you take into this squad from 2015? I'd have Southee, Vettori and McCullum, and replace de Grandhomme with either Elliot or Anderson.
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@Cyclops said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@Bovidae said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
I'd be happy with Guptill c2015 WC at the moment.
lets face it, 1 guy, no matter how good, is going to help.
If you compare our XI now to our XI in 2015, is there an upgrade anywhere? Maybe Ferguson as the 3rd seamer? Kane might be a bit better now? Other than that? Who would you put from now in to 2015 to help win that final? But ask that question the other way...
I'd take 2019 Kane and Taylor over the 2015 versions. Remember that Taylor was struggling with that eye problem and wasn't full force.
I'd also take either of our keeping options over Luke Ronchi and 2019 Boult too. Remember that 2015 was Boult's breakthrough into the ODI side (he had a similar rep prior to then that he couldn't bowl at the death).
By the same measure, who would you take into this squad from 2015? I'd have Southee, Vettori and McCullum, and replace de Grandhomme with either Elliot or Anderson.
Taylor is fair i guess, but both versions are pretty ordinary.
Boult took more wickets in 2015 than he has in this tournament, at better averages.
2015 McCullum
2015 Guptill
2019 Kane
2019 Rossco
2015 Jav
2019 Neesh
2019 Latham
2015 Vettori
2015 Tim
2015 Boult
2019 FergusonBut Latham and Rossco are best of a bad lot picks
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@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Flem.
Great captain. Best World Cup innings by a New Zealander. Both things we need.
Left arm quicks with the new ball were his kryptonite though, hardly promising against the Aussies.
I think the answer is Peak Bond.
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@rotated said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Flem.
Great captain. Best World Cup innings by a New Zealander. Both things we need.
Left arm quicks with the new ball were his kryptonite though, hardly promising against the Aussies.
I think the answer is Peak Bond.
Peak Hadlee, Crowe and Bond. Forget the numbers, they are the best NZ cricketers I've ever seen. Crowe, such a visionary, will captain as well
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@canefan said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@rotated said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Flem.
Great captain. Best World Cup innings by a New Zealander. Both things we need.
Left arm quicks with the new ball were his kryptonite though, hardly promising against the Aussies.
I think the answer is Peak Bond.
Peak Hadlee, Crowe and Bond. Forget the numbers, they are the best NZ cricketers I've ever seen. Crowe, such a visionary, will captain as well
just pick our all-time XI
Would our all-time XI win the Cup?
In a world cup of All Time XIs, where would be finish? above or below Sri Lanka?
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@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@canefan said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@rotated said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Flem.
Great captain. Best World Cup innings by a New Zealander. Both things we need.
Left arm quicks with the new ball were his kryptonite though, hardly promising against the Aussies.
I think the answer is Peak Bond.
Peak Hadlee, Crowe and Bond. Forget the numbers, they are the best NZ cricketers I've ever seen. Crowe, such a visionary, will captain as well
just pick our all-time XI
Would our all-time XI win the Cup?
In a world cup of All Time XIs, where would be finish? above or below Sri Lanka?
Run with the argument @Lee-Grant used to use back in prehistoric times when the Aussies last held the Bledisloe Cup;
Sure, your 3rd XI would murder our 3rd's, but you can only pick 11 at the top, and that's why Bradman c. McCullum b. Hadlee will eventually see us through.
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@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@canefan said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@rotated said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@mariner4life said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
Flem.
Great captain. Best World Cup innings by a New Zealander. Both things we need.
Left arm quicks with the new ball were his kryptonite though, hardly promising against the Aussies.
I think the answer is Peak Bond.
Peak Hadlee, Crowe and Bond. Forget the numbers, they are the best NZ cricketers I've ever seen. Crowe, such a visionary, will captain as well
just pick our all-time XI
Would our all-time XI win the Cup?
In a world cup of All Time XIs, where would be finish? above or below Sri Lanka?
Below in the subcontinent, above outside.
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bond has easily the most match-winning influence of the modern ODI players, hard to disagree with that even though quick bowling hasn't really been our weakness.
flem is a good shout, an opener hitting a chanceless 90-something before lobbing it to mid off would be a pretty big improvement. -
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@MN5 said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@Bones said in CWC Game #9 Black Caps v England:
@MN5 Lee Germon.
You just had to go there didn’t you ?
You think you’re being a character.
But you’re not.
Surely Nash or Thomson would be worth a shot?
