EPL 19/20
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@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
Bayern Munich were deserved winners. Not as spectacular as their humiliation of Barcelona but still effective.
75% of the club is owned by the fans. Most of the rest by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
They are certainly no rich man's plaything
come on. They are the 4th highest club in Europe in terms of Revenue. Lets not get all "one for the little guys" here.
Most importantly, their revenue is twice that of the next highest Club in Germany, hence their ability to hoover talent.
Do they have a rich Arab or Russian pouring money into the club in the form of suspicious personal loans or outlandish income derived from state owned airlines linked to the club's owners?
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@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
Bayern Munich were deserved winners. Not as spectacular as their humiliation of Barcelona but still effective.
75% of the club is owned by the fans. Most of the rest by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
They are certainly no rich man's plaything
come on. They are the 4th highest club in Europe in terms of Revenue. Lets not get all "one for the little guys" here.
Most importantly, their revenue is twice that of the next highest Club in Germany, hence their ability to hoover talent.
Do they have a rich Arab or Russian pouring money into the club in the form of suspicious personal loans or outlandish income derived from state owned airlines linked to the club's owners?
Do Real? Or Barca? Or even Juve?
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@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
Bayern Munich were deserved winners. Not as spectacular as their humiliation of Barcelona but still effective.
75% of the club is owned by the fans. Most of the rest by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
They are certainly no rich man's plaything
come on. They are the 4th highest club in Europe in terms of Revenue. Lets not get all "one for the little guys" here.
Most importantly, their revenue is twice that of the next highest Club in Germany, hence their ability to hoover talent.
Do they have a rich Arab or Russian pouring money into the club in the form of suspicious personal loans or outlandish income derived from state owned airlines linked to the club's owners?
Do Real? Or Barca? Or even Juve?
Real is Franco's club. Can't answer for the other two
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@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
Bayern Munich were deserved winners. Not as spectacular as their humiliation of Barcelona but still effective.
75% of the club is owned by the fans. Most of the rest by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
They are certainly no rich man's plaything
come on. They are the 4th highest club in Europe in terms of Revenue. Lets not get all "one for the little guys" here.
Most importantly, their revenue is twice that of the next highest Club in Germany, hence their ability to hoover talent.
Do they have a rich Arab or Russian pouring money into the club in the form of suspicious personal loans or outlandish income derived from state owned airlines linked to the club's owners?
Do Real? Or Barca? Or even Juve?
Real is Franco's club. Can't answer for the other two
fuck, they are doing well to still be getting money out of him
i find the pissing contests about where European football clubs get their money to be pretty funny.
The amounts are obscene, and in most cases, the ones able to generate huge revenues are only able to because they were lucky enough to be succesful when international support exploded in the late 90s. And by fuck haven't those clubs done all they can to ring fence themselves and ensure no one else ever gets a seat at the top table.
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@mariner4life probably need a super rich owner just to break through
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@mariner4life probably need a super rich owner just to break through
definitely do. And even then it's no guarantee.
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@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
@mariner4life said in EPL 19/20:
Bayern Munich were deserved winners. Not as spectacular as their humiliation of Barcelona but still effective.
75% of the club is owned by the fans. Most of the rest by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
They are certainly no rich man's plaything
come on. They are the 4th highest club in Europe in terms of Revenue. Lets not get all "one for the little guys" here.
Most importantly, their revenue is twice that of the next highest Club in Germany, hence their ability to hoover talent.
Do they have a rich Arab or Russian pouring money into the club in the form of suspicious personal loans or outlandish income derived from state owned airlines linked to the club's owners?
Do Real? Or Barca? Or even Juve?
Real Madrid are owned by the supporters but they got a massive bung in 2007 from the Spanish government who bought their former training ground at a massively inflated price.
FC Barcelona is a registered association, although it receives sponsorship from the Qatari royal family.
Juventus is owned by the Agnelli family who also control Fiat, Ferrari, Lancia, Alfa Romeo and Chrysler, La Stampa and The Economist.
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@mariner4life probably need a super rich owner just to break through
RB Leipzig were only founded in 2008 and made the finals of the Champions League. They are 99% owned by the Austrian energy drink company Red Bull.
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Let's not pretend that Bayern Munich are paupers. They have the 6th highest average annual player salary, just behind PSG.
No one said they were paupers or morally pure.
But I prefer their model of finance to clubs with obvious links to authoritarian governments and kleptocracy.
Lots of dirty money gets laundered through football clubs.
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Not a bad final this morning (although I had to stop watching just after the goal) - not quite the rollicking game we hoped for as both sides were fairly cautious in their approach. Bayern deserved winners as the best team through the season.
First team to win every game of the CL, they said at the end. That is remarkable.
That's the kind of stat that needs an asterisk though. Not having second legs makes a huge difference. I wonder how many teams were perfect but for a second leg that they 'lost' 1-nil with a three goal buffer from the first leg?
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Not a bad final this morning (although I had to stop watching just after the goal) - not quite the rollicking game we hoped for as both sides were fairly cautious in their approach. Bayern deserved winners as the best team through the season.
First team to win every game of the CL, they said at the end. That is remarkable.
That's the kind of stat that needs an asterisk though. Not having second legs makes a huge difference. I wonder how many teams were perfect but for a second leg that they 'lost' 1-nil with a three goal buffer from the first leg?
That’s a fair point. I forgot about that
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The one stat that is impressive from Bayern Munich is the number of goals in a single season, when you consider the number of games they played.
45 Barcelona, 1999/2000 (16 matches)
43 Bayern, 2019/20 (11)
41 Real Madrid, 2013/14 (13)
41 Liverpool, 2017/18 (13)
36 Real Madrid, 2016/17 (13)