Boxing Thread
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@Duluth said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
Pretty amazing knocking out someone with a much vaunted chin like Ngannou in a series of one punch knockdowns.
I think you have to question how seriously Fury took his Ngannou fight too
While fury may not be expected to knock him out in that spectacular fashion you would’ve expected him to hand him a boxing lesson .
Interesting he came in at a carrier heaviest weight , probably says something about his prep . He looks very different now getting ready for usyk .
Ngannou made rookie type mistakes against Joshua , watch Joshua repeatedly jab to the body, and ngannou attemptting to push the jab down with his hand leaving himself completely exposed for the right hand to follow through .
I suspect they saw this in the fury fight and went straight to setting up that trap
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Greatest call out in the history of call outs
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350258627/top-boxer-quits-goes-vegan-i-couldnt-hurt-people-anymore
Fascinating article to read over a coffee this morning.
That’s one vegan I’m certainly not keen to take the piss out of.
A dude I know was a promising boxer who quit out of the blue in a manner similar to this, he said he had recurring nightmares about stepping into the ring and had to give it away.
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Not long to go now
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Not long to go now
This will be a terrific fight
I suspect it will be a bit of a chess match, more so than an action packed fight , fascinating all the same
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@Duluth said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
I’ll let you know on Sunday.
No prediction? I thought you followed this?
Anyway, I'm picking Usyk
It’s too hard to pick I reckon.
Depends which version of Fury for me, at his best I think he has it but the jury is out especially after how he went against Ngannou.
As someone mentioned before I reckon it will go the distance, both will be pretty calculated and not take risks…..
( now that I’ve said that watch for a first round KO )
Pretty pumped for this, hope it lives up to expectations.
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Fury
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
Fury
Yeah Fury looks dialled in and in impressive shape. I’m with Lennox Lewis, going for Fury because of his size advantage, though my heart says Usyk.
Didn’t know Usyk boxed at middleweight as an amateur at European level as a 19/20 yo!
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Usyk if the scores aren't rigged. Fury won't be able to keep up with Usyk's speed out of the pocket and if Otto Wallin can give Fury fits fighting southpaw, good luck keeping up with Usyk.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
Usyk if the scores aren't rigged. Fury won't be able to keep up with Usyk's speed out of the pocket and if Otto Wallin can give Fury fits fighting southpaw, good luck keeping up with Usyk.
Fury’s lack of genuine power might be a factor in him not being able to put Usyk away.
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@Duluth said in Boxing Thread:
Who wins Fury or Usyk?
I follow it pretty closely, and I can’t clearly predict it .
The thing is both fighters are fighting someone very different to what they have faced previously so there is that uncertainty on how they handle it .
Tyson has shown previously he doesn’t like southpaws too much and usyk is clearly superior to those guys that he has faced. Especially with his footwork and angles he uses to come at you , and his motor is exceptional, on fight statistics he throws twice the volume of punches than Tyson , and the last quarter of the fight he goes into overdrive.
But then Tyson has such a long reach, and a great jab, and is also an underated in close fighter , particularly his clinching and grappling where he loves to lean that big heavy frame on you to tire you out . Good chance Tyson could attempt to turn this into a dirty scrap , whatever he does, to win he has to take away usyk s rhythm, but if he isn’t able to , a usyk points win is probably likely .
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@MN5 Yeah I agree, and Fury has come in slightly lighter whilst Usyk has come in a lot heavier, so Usyk is obviously preparing for Fury to try and smother him for 12 rounds, but I think Usyk's ring IQ won't allow for him to get caught up in the clinch and pushed back onto the ropes.
Obviously happy to be proven wrong, but I don't see how Usyk loses this match fairly. I think his speed in and out of the pocket, being a southpaw (we saw how bad Fury looked against Wallin the last time he faced one), and his quick change of angles gives Fury fits.
Fury's only way to victory for me is for him to smother Usyk out wrestling style and tire him out that way.
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Lots of talk about Usyk here and quite rightly but let’s not forget what Fury brings. Freakish size ( although I’m not sure he’s quite 6’9’’ but I digress ), huge reach, uncanny awkward skills and genuine toughness ( him getting up after being dropped all those times by Wilder was very impressive )
….but back to Wilder, that trilogy took a shitload out of both of them and I’m not convinced Fury is quite the same fighter. That may swing things in Usyks favour.
So yeah I’ve pretty much posted exactly the same as I did earlier, too hard to call !
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@African-Monkey the thing with fury , there is clearly a big difference in quality of performance in his best and worst efforts when looking at his career, those close to him say he performs best when he is super motivated, so hopefully we get the best Tyson . I suspect the delays work to his advantage, knowing his next opponent is a southpaw for such a long time , it’s given a long time to get that right, sparring nobody else except lefties .
Usyk on the other hand is super consistent , you know what you are going to get , I get why people are making him favourite, but Tyson for me is the wildcard , and I’m not closing the door and what surprises he might bring .
The opetaia Briedis fight should be a beauty and will probably outdo the main event for action.