2019 Rugby Championship
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@nzzp said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Chris said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
SBW is a point of difference compared to the other 2nd five options.He adds something different to attack those inside channels with.
Not a great fan of his selection But I understand why.What's SBW's 'point of difference'? Being able to hit contact hard and offload isn't amazing like it was when he first got going. ALB has soooooo many offloads this season.
those SBW offloads though, are still better than most in the game. There's offloads and offloads - others have caught up somewhat, but his arms are incredible. Two defenders on him, and he manages to get the ball away.
The coaches clearly rate him as an athlete and team player.
the coaches clearly overrate him.
yes, he's very good at offloading. but so is ALB. so is kieran read for that matter. and that fijian lock whose name escapes me right now is probably the best of the lot.
SBW is somewhat better than ALB at getting his arms free in multiple contact due to his height, but he's also significantly worse at the decision-making part of it. i agree there are offloads and offloads. but many of sbw's offloads are static and do not actually give us any benefit, they just free up the ball to someone in a worse position. he has the highest error-rate of not only any of our current midfielders, but since what, luke mcallister?
i can see why they like him against a rush defence, but i think it's wishful thinking at this stage. -
RS interview with Jacobson on at moment, so be up on demand soon I expect
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Some real AB legends there...
Waikato's last home-grown All Blacks
2012 (debut year): Tawera Kerr-Barlow (born: Melbourne, school: Hamilton Boys' High, club: Hautapu, tests: 27)
2009: Aled de Malmanche (Palmerston North, Hamilton Boys' High, Hamilton Old Boys, 5)
2008: Kevin O'Neill (Te Aroha, Sacred Heart College, Hamilton Marist, 1)
2008: Richard Kahui (Tokoroa, Forest View High, Te Rapa, 17)
2007: Brendon Leonard (Morrinsville, Matamata College, Morrinsville Sports, 13)Those first two are "home grown"?
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@Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Jaguares4real Except he’s shown he doesn’t have a commitment to NZ in the past to go along with his DV. He was out the door before his overseas contract was cancelled. The guy was 21 and had given up on making the ABs, gets in trouble with the law and then he’s all yep I’m a kiwi again, stick you Fiji. 🤣
Oh and he’s poachie as fudge!
@Magpie_in_aus Wearing eye liner is evidence of not being a good person now.
Well, TBF Michael Laws ... 🤔
A year ago Reece was an unknown guy playing provincial rugby
He wasn't playing Super Rugby so of course he wasn't thinking of ABs
Not every rugby playeris obsessed with playing for ABs Some want to make money and provide for their family or travel the world
Anyway Fiji don;t need him They have better wingers in Tuisova and Goneva
Nadolo & Nagusa retired recently
French bastard clubs in Top 14 bought them off Bunch of pirates
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@Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
He signed in May 2018 so I think it’s fair to say he wasn’t committed to NZ rugby regardless of whether he was due in court facing DV charges - which happened in July 2018 IIRC.
Yeah not particularly fond of playing the "not committed to NZ rugby" game.
The '95 side were one of our best and were signing and negotiating an exit from the NZRU during the tournament. Naholo. Zinzan Brooke with Manly. Brad Thorn and SBW? All these sabbaticals?
Like the other half dozen guys where there is a legitimate argument for poaching I'm happy to give or take him because quite honestly the gap between him and the next cab is not terribly wide - but if he is under an NZRU contact then good on him.
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@Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
Some real AB legends there...
Waikato's last home-grown All Blacks
2012 (debut year): Tawera Kerr-Barlow (born: Melbourne, school: Hamilton Boys' High, club: Hautapu, tests: 27)
2009: Aled de Malmanche (Palmerston North, Hamilton Boys' High, Hamilton Old Boys, 5)
2008: Kevin O'Neill (Te Aroha, Sacred Heart College, Hamilton Marist, 1)
2008: Richard Kahui (Tokoroa, Forest View High, Te Rapa, 17)
2007: Brendon Leonard (Morrinsville, Matamata College, Morrinsville Sports, 13)Those first two are "home grown"?
Te Aroha is Thames Valley too ...
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@booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
Some real AB legends there...
Waikato's last home-grown All Blacks
2012 (debut year): Tawera Kerr-Barlow (born: Melbourne, school: Hamilton Boys' High, club: Hautapu, tests: 27)
2009: Aled de Malmanche (Palmerston North, Hamilton Boys' High, Hamilton Old Boys, 5)
2008: Kevin O'Neill (Te Aroha, Sacred Heart College, Hamilton Marist, 1)
2008: Richard Kahui (Tokoroa, Forest View High, Te Rapa, 17)
2007: Brendon Leonard (Morrinsville, Matamata College, Morrinsville Sports, 13)Those first two are "home grown"?
Te Aroha is Thames Valley too ...
Also, pretty sure Thames Valley encapsulates Te Aroha.
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@Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
Some real AB legends there...
Waikato's last home-grown All Blacks
2012 (debut year): Tawera Kerr-Barlow (born: Melbourne, school: Hamilton Boys' High, club: Hautapu, tests: 27)
2009: Aled de Malmanche (Palmerston North, Hamilton Boys' High, Hamilton Old Boys, 5)
2008: Kevin O'Neill (Te Aroha, Sacred Heart College, Hamilton Marist, 1)
2008: Richard Kahui (Tokoroa, Forest View High, Te Rapa, 17)
2007: Brendon Leonard (Morrinsville, Matamata College, Morrinsville Sports, 13)Those first two are "home grown"?
Te Aroha is Thames Valley too ...
Also, pretty sure Thames Valley encapsulates Te Aroha.
You know ... that might have been mentioned...
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@booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
Some real AB legends there...
Waikato's last home-grown All Blacks
2012 (debut year): Tawera Kerr-Barlow (born: Melbourne, school: Hamilton Boys' High, club: Hautapu, tests: 27)
2009: Aled de Malmanche (Palmerston North, Hamilton Boys' High, Hamilton Old Boys, 5)
2008: Kevin O'Neill (Te Aroha, Sacred Heart College, Hamilton Marist, 1)
2008: Richard Kahui (Tokoroa, Forest View High, Te Rapa, 17)
2007: Brendon Leonard (Morrinsville, Matamata College, Morrinsville Sports, 13)Those first two are "home grown"?
Te Aroha is Thames Valley too ...
Also, pretty sure Thames Valley encapsulates Te Aroha.
You know ... that might have been mentioned...
Oh shit. Anyone mentioned Tokoroa not being part of NZ?
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@Bones not me man
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@Darren said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
I think they want SBW as a counter to the fast rushing defense.
He hits the line and they have to cover his offload, I guess it helps create indecision and pulls in defenders.I think they want SBW because he rocks up to the Adidas launch, seems to pull off the new collarless AB t-shirt, smiles at the Adidas execs and during Ramadan is a really cheap Food Bill.
😎
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@ACT-Crusader Red Bull and Tramadol is cheaper than Brancott Estate.
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@rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
The '95 side were one of our best and were signing and negotiating an exit from the NZRU during the tournament. Naholo. Zinzan Brooke with Manly. Brad Thorn and SBW? All these sabbaticals?
I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.
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@Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.
You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?
At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.
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@Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
The '95 side were one of our best and were signing and negotiating an exit from the NZRU during the tournament. Naholo. Zinzan Brooke with Manly. Brad Thorn and SBW? All these sabbaticals?
I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.
I agree Reece would not be playign Rugby in NZ if not for his unfromtiate incidentBut hey that's life Shit happens
He turned a terrible time in his life to a pleasant change in location and maturity
Good on Reece Redemption is a beautiful thing
Couldn't care less if he plays fro NZ or Fiji He would be eligible to play for both
Born and raised in Fiji Educated in NZ and started his pro rugby career in NZ
