Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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Is that Van der Flier back in the mix? I believe he's had a nightmare run of injuries. That kid looked shit hot.
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Henshaw and Murray ruled out of Ireland's clash with the All Blacks
Henshaw pulled up with a tight hamstring on Saturday, and will miss the rest of the autumnal programme.
IRELAND HAVE BEEN dealt a major injury blow ahead of Saturday’s clash against the All Blacks with the news Robbie Henshaw has been ruled out of the remainder of the November series.
Conor Murray, meanwhile, won’t link up with the national squad at Carton House this week, with the IRFU definitively ending talk of the scrum-half making a miraculous comeback from his neck injury against the world champions.Murray and Henshaw have been ruled out of the games against New Zealand and USA.
Source: Dan Sheridan/INPHO
While it was always unlikely Murray would come back into the equation for this weekend’s showdown at the Aviva Stadium [KO 7pm, RTÉ 2/Channel 4], the loss of Henshaw is a significant blow.
The Leinster centre pulled up with a tight hamstring in the warmup ahead of Saturday’s win over Argentina, and despite Joe Schmidt allaying fears over his fitness in the post-match press conference, Henshaw will miss the games against New Zealand and USA.
Henshaw’s injury places even greater importance on the fitness of Garry Ringrose, who sat out Saturday’s Test against the Pumas with a hip knock sustained in Chicago but is due to return to full training tomorrow.
Will Addison, who was impressive on the occasion of his first start after being a late call-up for Henshaw, could also been in the frame to partner Bundee Aki in midfield again.Murray’s confirmed absence, meanwhile, ends the speculation over whether he’ll play on Saturday or not, after Steve Hansen yesterday insisted he believed the Munster nine would start.
“Robbie Henshaw’s hamstring issue, which saw him replaced by Will Addision just prior to kick-off on Saturday, will rule him out of the remainder of the Guinness Series,” a brief IRFU injury update said.
“Ireland scrum-half Conor Murray is accelerating through his recovery but will not join the squad during the Guinness Series window.”
In addition, there are a number of players being managed at Carton House today but are expected to train fully on Tuesday and Thursday.
Henshaw and Murray join Sean O’Brien on the injured list, after the flanker suffered a broken arm at the weekend.
There was no update on the fitness of Kieran Marmion and Bundee Aki, who both rolled their ankle in the second half. -
Murray was always going to be out - this story is being flogged to death at this point.
Henshaw out is disappointing but not surprising. If it's Aki and Addision so be it. That's what this November series is about - testing out the wider squad and seeing how they perform under pressure in the machine.
Kearney is still a question mark as well so it's either Larmour again or Conway. Which puts Earls and Stockdale on the wings.
It may be Aki & Ringrose or else Addison in again who did ok for his first start against the Pumas.
Beirne is worthwhile looking at for at least the bench with Toner and Ryan in second row.
Not sure Best is in greatest form and Scannell might be better but presumably Schmidt will want to have as much experience as he can. Leavy/vdF at 7, POM and Stander for the back-row with either Murphy or Conan on the bench. Props - as you were.If Marmion has rolled his ankle, then McGrath should get his start - he's nippy and fast and used to playing with Sexton at Leinster.
So if no Kearney either, maybe
Conway/Larmour, Earls, Addison, Aki, Sexton, McGrath
Healy, Best, Furlong, Toner, Ryan, Leavy, POM, Stander
Reps: Scannell, McGrath, Ryan, Beirne, Murphy, Cooney, Carbery, Conway/Larmour -
I wonder how much Schmidt was trolling the ABs with his 'I'll be talking to connor'? Even if he was better straight into an ABs test after half a year off? Hansen have straight back saying I expect him to play, when I doubt he thought anything like that at all. Fun and games
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Backstabbers or boys done good: how do All Blacks view Celtic Kiwis?
Concept of scouring the world for players is one that is little loved in New Zealand
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@billy-tell another Gregor hatchet peice?
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@billy-tell is Thomson from the south Island?
Absolutely nothing about the hatred of Cooper had to do with him being from NZ.
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@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@billy-tell is Thomson from the south Island?
Absolutely nothing about the hatred of Cooper had to do with him being from NZ.
Yep, that was all down to the knees to the head of McCaw, and how he acted in the press afterwards about it.
Was a weird article, puts a wickerman sized strawman at the beginning and then goes on a merry little journey with it.
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In what promises to be an enthralling battle of the top two test nations in world rugby, Ireland have been dealt a few injury blows to key players like Henshaw and O’Brien.
But spare a thought for the visitors, they are not without some lineup concerns of their own. We have learned that they will be without key personnel with Joe Moody and Jordan Taufua battling injury. Questions remain around why standouts Luke Romano, David Havili, try scoring sensation George Bridge and the promising All Black halves combination Mitch Drummond and Brett Cameron, will be left out.
Several sources close to one NZ Super rugby franchise say the continued non-selection of All Black veteran Israel Dagg should be the subject of a national inquiry.
Despite these major setbacks, the test match will be a close and tense affair. According to an unnamed source, the All Blacks will be best served with a 10, 12, 13 combination of Mo’unga, Crotty and Goodhue to gain advantage over the home team.
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@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
In what promises to be an enthralling battle of the top two test nations in world rugby, Ireland have been dealt a few injury blows to key players like Henshaw and O’Brien.
But spare a thought for the visitors, they are not without some lineup concerns of their own. We have learned that they will be without key personnel with Joe Moody and Jordan Taufua battling injury. Questions remain around why standouts Luke Romano, David Havili, try scoring sensation George Bridge and the promising All Black halves combination Mitch Drummond and Brett Cameron, will be left out.
Several sources close to one NZ Super rugby franchise say the continued non-selection of All Black veteran Israel Dagg should be the subject of a national inquiry.
Despite these major setbacks, the test match will be a close and tense affair. According to an unnamed source, the All Blacks will be best served with a 10, 12, 13 combination of Mo’unga, Crotty and Goodhue to gain advantage over the home team.
I haven't played a test for the All Blacks either. Does that make me key personnel too ?
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That 1014 review of NZ vs England was great.
The Irish version should be interesting too.
I thought Ireland were fairly poor against Argentina. If Argentina could have held up a scrum they might well have won. Ireland should be better this week though, I doubt sexton plays as poorly 2 weeks in a row.
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@billy-tell said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Concept of scouring the world for players is one that is little loved in New Zealand
He did a wind up piece for the NZ audience 'not within the spirit of the game' etc etc
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12159079&ref=rss
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@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
According to an unnamed source, the All Blacks will be best served with a 10, 12, 13 combination of Mo’unga, Crotty and Goodhue to gain advantage over the home team.
So no Charlie Ngatai then?
(I'll get my coat)
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@billy-tell said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Concept of scouring the world for players is one that is little loved in New Zealand
He did a wind up piece for the NZ audience 'not within the spirit of the game' etc etc
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12159079&ref=rss
The 5 year rule has killed the project player thing. What Ireland is doing now is scouting mainly in England for players who are already Irish qualified. Their centre Will Addison is an example.
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
The 5 year rule hasn't killed project players, they'll just grab them younger, I reckon
If you can predict 5 years out that a young player will be international quality and remain injury free, fair play to you. If an 18 or 19 year old already decides he’s washed up in nz and wants to set his sail for Ireland or Scotland etc then good riddance.
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I'm more talking about the Islanders that go to French academies early teens, then they count as French for WR and FRU. If they don't make the grade, they are discarded. NRL does the same thing, picking up talented players early, happy to drop a whole pile of coal for one diamond
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@act-crusader oooh. new spin.
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
I'm more talking about the Islanders that go to French academies early teens, then they count as French for WR and FRU. If they don't make the grade, they are discarded. NRL does the same thing, picking up talented players early, happy to drop a whole pile of coal for one diamond
Only if the French academies also recruit the parents. A teen (U18) away from the family home doesn't count towards residency. See PI scholarships kids in NZ.
The 5 year rule is actually a big difference, and the 'they'll just recruit them younger' counter argument is uninformed.
