AB EOYT 2018
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@no-quarter that one was the previous test wasnt it, and Garces was the 'we have a deal' over the off side penalty call at the end of the game, or have I got them wrong way round?
Poite reffed the third test and was the one that made nonsensical deals to avoid having to make a big call. Garces gave the penalty for jumping into the tackle at the end of test 2.
Either way they are much of a muchness. Crazy we had two of the most inconsistent refs in world rugby for tests 2 and 3.
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@no-quarter wasnt Poite's TMO Garces?
Yeah those 2 refs are not the best.
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Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
I see Jordan is getting a lot of support - he's always struck me as a bit flaky previously (like McNicholl) and I'm surprised to see him being promoted ahead of Ennor. But I've watched fuck all NPC.
You won't have seen much of him, then.
Paul Cully is on the Jordan bandwagon.
I'd be a bit surprised if he makes the Japan squad, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
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@rapido said in AB EOYT 2018:
Remember when we all laughed at Woodward's giant Lions squad of 2005?
Aren't we still?
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@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
I see Jordan is getting a lot of support - he's always struck me as a bit flaky previously (like McNicholl) and I'm surprised to see him being promoted ahead of Ennor. But I've watched fuck all NPC.
You won't have seen much of him, then.
Paul Cully is on the Jordan bandwagon.
I'd be a bit surprised if he makes the Japan squad, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
Yeah sure, but I thought Ennor was impressive. Hasn't kicked on?
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@bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.
He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.
Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.
I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?
Out with concussion from previous year's NPC.
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Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....
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@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.
He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.
Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.
I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.
Mataele has been struggling with injuries right from the start of the season, so he hasn't really had regular game time. It's no surprise that he hasn't impressed much. "Awful" is an exaggeration IMO.
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@act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:
Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....
Yeah that was my thinking.
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Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.
The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
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@kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming
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All answered here:
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Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.
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@machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:
Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.
18 players and a halfback
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Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.
Hookers
Dane Coles
Nathan Harris
Codie TaylorProps
Owen Franks
Joe Moody
Tim Perry
Karl Tu'inukuafe
Ofa TuungafasiLocks
Scott Barrett
Brodie Retallick
Samuel WhitelockLoose Forwards
Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
Shannon Frizell
Jackson Hemopo
Kieran Read
Ardie Savea
Liam Squire
Luke WhitelockHalfbacks
TJ Perenara
Aaron Smith
Te Toiroa TahuriorangiFirst five-eighths
Beauden Barrett
Damian McKenzie
Richie Mo'ungaMidfielders
Ryan Crotty
Jack Goodhue
Anton Lienert-Brown
Sonny Bill WilliamsOutside backs
Jordie Barrett
Rieko Ioane
Nehe Milner-Skudder
Waisake Naholo
Ben SmithSo one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).
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@akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.
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@98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.
Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.
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@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bovidae That will be pretty close.
I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.
NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.
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@nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.
So they give their players plenty of rope.
But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.
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Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.
The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.
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@akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)
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Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !
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Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.
I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.
I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.
Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?
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@sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:
Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.
I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.
I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.
Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?
I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.
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@sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:
But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.
Um, so.
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Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.
Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.
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Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.
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@cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:
Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.
Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance
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Is Abel Australia eligible?
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@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
Is Abel Australia eligible?
He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.
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@act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.
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@tim this stint with the Orcs has done his confidence a world of good. Regular playing time has given him an opportunity to play with a little more freedom and it’s paid off for him and AKL.
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@act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:
Refs shmefs. Won’t matter. We’ll cane the Paddies by 20.
That’s going down in my little green book. In the section, For Possible Future Retrieval.
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Papali'i and Parkinson both look to have a bit of mongrel and animal energy / spark about them which will be invaluable for the EOYT and SR heading into 2019 for RWC campaign.
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